Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-binary-lci
"Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com> Fri, 15 February 2008 21:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-binary-lci
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Marc, I don't quite not where to start since your response is so utterly incorrect, and full of misrepresentations. You seem to imply that 3825 is about "self-measuring" device, there is no mention of this in 3825 at all. In fact 3825 says: "This document specifies a Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol [1] Option for the coordinate-based geographic location of the client, to be provided by the server." To me this is clearly a network determined location, or is the DHCP server in the end-device? Just to cut your response before you start, I have wandered around quite large areas of Dallas in the past with a differential GPS unit that quite clearly provided me with a location as a circle, point with radius, and not a "thick point". Our position of representing uncertainty comes from NIST. But as you point out, NIST is a cellular telephone technology provider that is interested only in network determined locations. I asked John S, a very simple question in an email yesterday, that he has declined to respond to, I think that the answer to that question would solve a great deal of trouble. Just in case it got lost in the noise, I shall provide a link to it here: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/geopriv/current/msg05189.html Have a nice weekend James ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any unauthorized use of this email is prohibited. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [mf2] _______________________________________________ Geopriv mailing list Geopriv@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv
- [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-binary… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Carl Reed
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Berryman
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… John Schnizlein
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Andrew Newton
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… John Schnizlein
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Carl Reed
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Berryman
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Carl Reed
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Andrew Newton
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Marc Berryman
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Direction for draft-ietf-geopriv-bi… Cullen Jennings