Re: [Geopriv] IPR disclosure on draft-ietf-geopriv-deref-protocol

Silly indeed.

I would hazard a guess that the utility GIS space had applications for role 
based access to utility databases based on time and location. This is 
especially true for outside plant mapping. This work dates back to the 
1980's. The following paper:

http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/publications/docs/sasaokamedeiros.pdf - Access 
Control in Geographic Databases

has some very interesting references dating from the mid 1990's. I would 
also guess that IBM and Oracle deployed numerous role based access control 
applications - since they have been major players in the utility 
infrastructure space for decades. Obviously, all this early work predates 
GPS. But of course, folks have been collecting geographic data and 
determining the position of a piece of equipment using remote sensor 
technology way before GPS was civilian accessible. IBM followed a model 
called Role Based Access Control (RBAC).

Now, in terms of straight on possible prior art, check out:

Location-Based Authentication: Grounding Cyberspace for Better Security
http://www.cs.georgetown.edu/~denning/infosec/Grounding.txt

And of course if Glassy wants to fight with some "big boys"

http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2006103387

and a 1996 patent:

http://www.google.com/patents/US6011973 - The present invention provides a 
method and apparatus for restricting operation of a cellular telephone to 
well delineated geographical areas.

which references really early patents on location, wireless networks, and 
authentication/access control.

Regards

Carl

-----Original Message----- 
From: James Polk
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:07 PM
To: geopriv@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] IPR disclosure on draft-ietf-geopriv-deref-protocol

How can you have IPR on a requirements doc that doesn't create
anything novel or unique? Literally, where's the invention within RFC 3693?

This is crazy!

James

At 02:57 PM 7/19/2012, Richard L. Barnes wrote:
>Dear GEOPRIV,
>
>An IPR disclosure has been filed against a GEOPPRIV document, 
>draft-ietf-geopriv-deref-protocol.  This document has been through working 
>group last call, IETF last call, and IESG approval.  Its last DISCUSS was 
>cleared 12 July 2012, but Robert is delaying final approval until this IPR 
>question has been resolved.
>
>Please send comment to the list by Friday, 20 July 2012, if you have 
>concerns related to this IPR disclosure.
>
>Note that the patent disclosed in this disclosure was also disclosed with 
>regard to other GEOPRIV documents that proceeded to publication:
>RFC 3693: <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/960/>
>RFC 4079: <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/959/>
>RFC 4119: <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/958/>
>
>Thanks,
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