RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70

["Winterbottom, James" <[e-mail]>]

Hi James,

Sorry, I was just trying to present the use-case and document the
existing requirements. Comes about as a force of habit with this WG...
*8)

Cheers
James



> -----Original Message-----
> From: James M. Polk [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:26 AM
> To: Winterbottom, James; Marc Linsner; Stark, Barbara;
> [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
> 
> James
> 
> You can reply without being so incredibly defensive, can't you?
> 
> At 02:42 PM 11/21/2007, Winterbottom, James wrote:
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> >
> >Marc,
> >
> >Suppose the identifier is a MAC address, since this has no formal
> >URI representation  then what?
> >Suppose HELD is bound to a transport other than HTTP, such as in
> ><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-beep-
> 01>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-beep-01,
> >how are the parameters simply added to the URI? Does it even make
> >sense to do so?
> >
> ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-
>
06.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-
> 06.txt
> >indicates that identifiers other than IP address will be required in
> >some scenarios.
> >
> ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-
> 03.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-
> 03.txt
> >identifies the need, in some situations, for an outbound proxy to
> >insert location on-behalf-of the calling device. In this situation
> >using HELD requires a formal way to express how the Device is being
> >identified, and what the identifier represents.
> >
> >Please read the draft
> ><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-
>
extensions-04>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held
-
> identity-extensions-04
> >before jumping on to the attack.
> >
> >There are several architectures and deployments well underway that
> >require this work. The ABNF definitions in the extensions draft have
> >applicability beyond just HELD. I don't see a need to delay this work
> further.
> >
> >Cheers
> >James
> >
> >
> >----------
> >From: Marc Linsner [mailto:[e-mail]]
> >Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 4:54 AM
> >To: 'Stark, Barbara'; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> >Subject: RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
> >
> >Barbara,
> >
> >Remind me again why this can't be accomplished by putting the
> >identifier in the uri?  ex:
> ><mailto:[e-mail]>[e-mail]
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Marc-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----------
> >From: Stark, Barbara [mailto:[e-mail]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:17 PM
> >To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
> >
> >Robert,
> >I think the HELD identity extensions is important. It's needed for
> >LIS to LIS communication, which is critical where the entity who
> >assigns the public IP address is not the same as the access provider.
> >Barbara
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>
> >To: GEOPRIV <[e-mail]>
> >Sent: Tue Nov 20 15:09:03 2007
> >Subject: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
> >
> >Folks -
> >
> >We have 2.5 hrs in Vancouver (Friday morning). Based on our chartered
> >work, list discussions, and agenda requests, here's the agenda I'm
> >planning to follow:
> >
> >15m     Administrivia   Chairs
> >30m     http-location-delivery  Mary (<- Lets finish this one!)
> >20m     Finishing geopriv-policy        Hannes/Cullen
> >30m     LIS Discovery   James W
> >10m     l7lcp-ps        Hannes
> >20m     pidf-lo-dynamic Henning
> >15m     dhcp-lbyr-uri-option    James P
> >10m     civicaddresses-austria  Karl
> >20m     Uncertainty and Confidence      James W
> >10m     HELD Dereference        James W
> >
> >As usual, we have many other requests to talk about other things -
> >please take those to the list for now.
> >
> >This is a draft agenda and we can change it. Let me know if you think
> >I've missed something important.
> >
> >RjS
> >
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