RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Wed, 21 November 2007 21:26 UTC
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To: "Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com>, Marc Linsner <mlinsner@cisco.com>, "Stark, Barbara" <bs7652@att.com>, rjsparks@nostrum.com, geopriv@ietf.org
From: "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
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James You can reply without being so incredibly defensive, can't you? At 02:42 PM 11/21/2007, Winterbottom, James wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82C7E.FAF514D5" > >Marc, > >Suppose the identifier is a MAC address, since this has no formal >URI representation then what? >Suppose HELD is bound to a transport other than HTTP, such as in ><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-beep-01>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-beep-01, >how are the parameters simply added to the URI? Does it even make >sense to do so? > ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-06.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-06.txt >indicates that identifiers other than IP address will be required in >some scenarios. > ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03.txt >identifies the need, in some situations, for an outbound proxy to >insert location on-behalf-of the calling device. In this situation >using HELD requires a formal way to express how the Device is being >identified, and what the identifier represents. > >Please read the draft ><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-04>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-04 >before jumping on to the attack. > >There are several architectures and deployments well underway that >require this work. The ABNF definitions in the extensions draft have >applicability beyond just HELD. I don't see a need to delay this work further. > >Cheers >James > > >---------- >From: Marc Linsner [mailto:mlinsner@cisco.com] >Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 4:54 AM >To: 'Stark, Barbara'; rjsparks@nostrum.com; geopriv@ietf.org >Subject: RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 > >Barbara, > >Remind me again why this can't be accomplished by putting the >identifier in the uri? ex: ><mailto:identifier@accessprovider.net>identifier@accessprovider.net > >Thanks, > >-Marc- > > > > >---------- >From: Stark, Barbara [mailto:bs7652@att.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:17 PM >To: rjsparks@nostrum.com; geopriv@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 > >Robert, >I think the HELD identity extensions is important. It's needed for >LIS to LIS communication, which is critical where the entity who >assigns the public IP address is not the same as the access provider. >Barbara > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> >To: GEOPRIV <geopriv@ietf.org> >Sent: Tue Nov 20 15:09:03 2007 >Subject: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 > >Folks - > >We have 2.5 hrs in Vancouver (Friday morning). Based on our chartered >work, list discussions, and agenda requests, here's the agenda I'm >planning to follow: > >15m Administrivia Chairs >30m http-location-delivery Mary (<- Lets finish this one!) >20m Finishing geopriv-policy Hannes/Cullen >30m LIS Discovery James W >10m l7lcp-ps Hannes >20m pidf-lo-dynamic Henning >15m dhcp-lbyr-uri-option James P >10m civicaddresses-austria Karl >20m Uncertainty and Confidence James W >10m HELD Dereference James W > >As usual, we have many other requests to talk about other things - >please take those to the list for now. > >This is a draft agenda and we can change it. Let me know if you think >I've missed something important. > >RjS > > >_______________________________________________ >Geopriv mailing list >Geopriv@ietf.org ><https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv > >***** > >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or >entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, >proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, >dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance >upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended >recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. GA623 > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This message is for the designated recipient only and may >contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. >If you have received it in error, please notify the sender >immediately and delete the original. Any unauthorized use of >this email is prohibited. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >[mf2] >_______________________________________________ >Geopriv mailing list >Geopriv@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv _______________________________________________ Geopriv mailing list Geopriv@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv
- Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Stark, Barbara
- [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Robert Sparks
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 g.caron
- Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 James M. Polk
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 James M. Polk
- Please us an appropriate subject line : Re: [Geop… Robert Sparks
- [Geopriv] In response to.. Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Marc Linsner
- Re: [Geopriv] In response to.. Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] In response to.. Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] In response to.. James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] In response to.. James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 James M. Polk
- RE: [Geopriv] HELD identity extension - standardi… Dawson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] HELD bindings and relevance to iden… Dawson, Martin
- [Geopriv] Message Flow Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow Salvatore Loreto
- [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Dawson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Winterbottom, James
- Re: [Geopriv] Message Flow Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Marc Berryman
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Dawson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Dawson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Dawson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Marc Berryman
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 john.medland
- [Geopriv] HELD IDs in extension vs. URI Stark, Barbara
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 James M. Polk
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 James M. Polk
- Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Winterbottom, James
- [Geopriv] Religious Terminology Discussions Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Thomson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70 Dawson, Martin
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Dawson, Martin
- [Geopriv] SIP Location Conveyance and Content Ind… James M. Polk
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again Dawson, Martin
- [Geopriv] RE: SIP Conveyance vs Retrieval James M. Polk
- [Geopriv] RE: SIP Conveyance vs Retrieval Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Religious Terminology Discussions Carl Reed OGC Account
- OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Marc Linsner
- Re: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Marc Linsner
- Re: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Brian Rosen
- Re: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Marc Linsner
- Re: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Brian Rosen
- Re: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Hannes Tschofenig
- [Geopriv] RE: OBO Marc Linsner
- [Geopriv] RE: OBO Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: OBO Stark, Barbara
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Brian Rosen
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: OBO Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] Religious Terminology Discussions Roger Marshall
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Dawson, Martin
- Re: [Geopriv] Religious Terminology Discussions Carl Reed OGC Account
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Tatham Oddie
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: OBO Dawson, Martin
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Dawson, Martin
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Brian Rosen
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Dawson, Martin
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Marc Linsner
- RE: [Geopriv] Religious Terminology Discussions Roger Marshall
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Winterbottom, James
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Marc Linsner
- Re: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Robert Sparks
- RE: OBO (was - RE: [Geopriv] Message Flow, again) Marc Linsner
- [Geopriv] http-location-delivery Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Geopriv] http-location-delivery Winterbottom, James