RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70

"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Wed, 21 November 2007 21:26 UTC

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:25:55 -0600
To: "Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com>, Marc Linsner <mlinsner@cisco.com>, "Stark, Barbara" <bs7652@att.com>, rjsparks@nostrum.com, geopriv@ietf.org
From: "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
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James

You can reply without being so incredibly defensive, can't you?

At 02:42 PM 11/21/2007, Winterbottom, James wrote:
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>Marc,
>
>Suppose the identifier is a MAC address, since this has no formal 
>URI representation  then what?
>Suppose HELD is bound to a transport other than HTTP, such as in 
><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-beep-01>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-held-beep-01, 
>how are the parameters simply added to the URI? Does it even make 
>sense to do so?
>
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-06.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-06.txt 
>indicates that identifiers other than IP address will be required in 
>some scenarios.
>
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03.txt 
>identifies the need, in some situations, for an outbound proxy to 
>insert location on-behalf-of the calling device. In this situation 
>using HELD requires a formal way to express how the Device is being 
>identified, and what the identifier represents.
>
>Please read the draft 
><http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-04>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-winterbottom-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-04 
>before jumping on to the attack.
>
>There are several architectures and deployments well underway that 
>require this work. The ABNF definitions in the extensions draft have 
>applicability beyond just HELD. I don't see a need to delay this work further.
>
>Cheers
>James
>
>
>----------
>From: Marc Linsner [mailto:mlinsner@cisco.com]
>Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 4:54 AM
>To: 'Stark, Barbara'; rjsparks@nostrum.com; geopriv@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
>
>Barbara,
>
>Remind me again why this can't be accomplished by putting the 
>identifier in the uri?  ex: 
><mailto:identifier@accessprovider.net>identifier@accessprovider.net
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Marc-
>
>
>
>
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>From: Stark, Barbara [mailto:bs7652@att.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:17 PM
>To: rjsparks@nostrum.com; geopriv@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
>
>Robert,
>I think the HELD identity extensions is important. It's needed for 
>LIS to LIS communication, which is critical where the entity who 
>assigns the public IP address is not the same as the access provider.
>Barbara
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
>To: GEOPRIV <geopriv@ietf.org>
>Sent: Tue Nov 20 15:09:03 2007
>Subject: [Geopriv] draft agenda: GEOPRIV @ IETF 70
>
>Folks -
>
>We have 2.5 hrs in Vancouver (Friday morning). Based on our chartered
>work, list discussions, and agenda requests, here's the agenda I'm
>planning to follow:
>
>15m     Administrivia   Chairs
>30m     http-location-delivery  Mary (<- Lets finish this one!)
>20m     Finishing geopriv-policy        Hannes/Cullen
>30m     LIS Discovery   James W
>10m     l7lcp-ps        Hannes
>20m     pidf-lo-dynamic Henning
>15m     dhcp-lbyr-uri-option    James P
>10m     civicaddresses-austria  Karl
>20m     Uncertainty and Confidence      James W
>10m     HELD Dereference        James W
>
>As usual, we have many other requests to talk about other things -
>please take those to the list for now.
>
>This is a draft agenda and we can change it. Let me know if you think
>I've missed something important.
>
>RjS
>
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