Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group proposal

james woodyatt <> Fri, 01 July 2011 16:39 UTC

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On Jun 30, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Martin Focazio wrote:
> On Jun 30, 2011, at 19:51, james woodyatt <> wrote:
>> The key thing here is that by Alice choosing to use one service provider over another, she can make Bob's application fail, and vice versa.  The mobile service providers that don't have enough IPv4 addresses to serve all their customers are in a bind and can't budge.  The wireline service providers who have 5-10 years of IPv4 addresses in reserve are the ones whistling past the graveyard.
> You assume at Alice CAN select a service provider. In a large part of
> the USA your choices are nil. You have a single wireline provider or
> you don't have a connection.

Telecommunications services are still ostensibly a regulated utility in the USA.

If the people living in those areas neither want to move, nor demand their utility commissions to hold service providers accountable for the proper operation of the monopoly franchise they receive from the government, then those people are making their choice.  Choosing an alternative is possible.  It entails either individual action to relocate or collective action to reform the telecommunications services.  Inaction, of course, is also an alternative.  People choose one or the other.

As I said, Alice can break Bob's applications by choosing her service provider.  And vice versa.

james woodyatt <>
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