Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) for HOMEGATE
"Kirksey, Heather R (Heather)" <hkirksey@motive.com> Wed, 08 September 2010 20:22 UTC
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From: "Kirksey, Heather R (Heather)" <hkirksey@motive.com>
To: Ray Bellis <Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk>, "homegate@ietf.org" <homegate@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:22:43 -0500
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Subject: Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) for HOMEGATE
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Ray and Mark, I like this updated charter and think it sounds like a good way forward. I also think it's less likely to incur overlap with other groups, while focusing on some areas where IETF can provide good value to the community. My only feedback/concern is that it's a rather long list of items you have on there to address -- I think that the working group leadership would need to be very focused to ensure that the work doesn't drag on too long. Thanks, Heather -----Original Message----- From: homegate-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:homegate-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ray Bellis Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:05 PM To: homegate@ietf.org Subject: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) for HOMEGATE Mark Townsley and I, with lots of help from Ole Troan and input from various ADs and from Jason, have authored a new potential charter for this group. We've taken a bit of a different direction from the previously proposed charter, but we think it is one which is more within the scope of what we believe the IETF can deliver, and takes into account most of the comments and feedback to date. To avoid conflicting with the Home Gateway Initiative, and to better reflect the proposed scope of the group, the new name is the Home Networking (HOMENET) Working Group. We believe that if the group agrees to this charter in general, we can start the process for WG formation. That means we at least need to tell the ADs that we are OK asking them to circulate the text among the IESG and IAB by this Thursday, Sept 9th. So, please send comments ASAP - positive or negative - so we can get a feel for whether this is the right way to go. We'd also like to thank Jason Livingood for getting us this far. --8<--8<-- Home networks are used for communication among networked devices deployed within a home, and for communication with the Internet at large. The manner in which a home network is used is evolving rapidly, at times resulting in interoperability and/or performance problems on the home network. In some cases, those working to solve these problems have suggested the need for clarification of existing protocol functionality or definition of new protocol functionality. A home network can include a variety of data-link technologies, be it Ethernet, 802.11, 802.15.4 or power line communication. Connected devices may be as diverse as personal computers, televisions, digital video recorders, telephones, computing tablets, digital cameras, IP-enabled light switches, gaming consoles, audio output speakers, smart electricity meters, toys, printers, routers and more. The home network provides important local connectivity, Internet connectivity through one or more Internet Service Providers, and connectivity to closed networks, such as corporate VPNs and walled garden services. Home networks offer unique challenges not only because of the wide range of devices, applications, and user types, but also in that they are typically not actively managed. The broad purpose of the home networking (HOMENET) working group is to describe the home network IP architecture and to work on clarifications and improvements to IETF protocols to allow the home network to better meet present and anticipated future requirements. Under this scope, the current work items of the working group are related to addressing the following requirements: - Support for IPv4 and IPv6 with zero configuration, for IP prefix assignments and other fundamental aspects that are critical for network operation. - Simple naming for devices in the home network, so they can be accessed from within the home network as well as from elsewhere on the Internet. - Support for connections to multiple Internet service providers or closed networks (VPNs, walled gardens) at the same time - IP routing across subnets and network segments with different Layer 2 media (e.g., between Ethernet and 802.15.4). - Effective queuing and forwarding mechanisms to enable efficient communication between network segments of different speeds. - Reasonable default network layer security in accordance with known and/or expected threats, while not hindering the deployment of new applications or transport layer protocols. - Support for DNSSEC validation within the home network. The working group will work together with other standards development organizations that define requirements on home networking devices (including groups such as the Home Gateway Initiative, Broadband Forum, CableLabs, UPnP, DLNA, etc.). The HOMENET working group focuses on recommendations related to the use of IETF-specified technologies such as DNS, DNSSEC, NATs, or IPv6, and will not overlap with specifications related to system-level or link-layer technologies developed by other standards bodies. Extensions to IETF technologies will typically occur in the relevant working groups chartered to maintain those technologies, based on requirements from the HOMENET working group. --8<--8<-- Ray and Mark _______________________________________________ homegate mailing list homegate@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homegate
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Marco Davids (SIDN)
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Kirksey, Heather R (Heather)
- [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) for … Ray Bellis
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Marco Davids (SIDN)
- [homegate] Fwd: A new proposed charter (and name)… Ray Bellis
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Paul Hoffman
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … STARK, BARBARA H (ATTLABS)
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Ralph Droms
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Baugher
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Ralph Droms
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … STARK, BARBARA H (ATTLABS)
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Ole Troan
- Re: [homegate] A new proposed charter (and name) … Mark Baugher