Re: [http-auth] WGLC on the MutualAuth drafts

大岩寛 <y.oiwa@aist.go.jp> Thu, 07 July 2016 14:14 UTC

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From: 大岩寛 <y.oiwa@aist.go.jp>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>, httpauth mailing list <http-auth@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [http-auth] WGLC on the MutualAuth drafts
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Dear Julian,

> > Dear Julian,
> >
> > My understanding of your message is that you'll just define the value
> > encoding of I18n string, and all RFCs referring it must say, for
> > example, "the value of parameter foo will be encoded by RFC5987bis,
> > like foo=UTF-8''caf%C3%89 ."
> > Is it right? If not, please forgive me and skip the rest of my message.
> 
> Something like that.
> 
> (did you want to say "foo*" here?)

Dropping of * is intentional, to mean "someone only uses encoded values,
without the field extending mechanism by appending *."


> The problem is that there isn't a generic parameter framework. For instance,
> header fields differ in whitespace and error handling.
> 
> (I agree that it would be good if there was something like that, but that's
> a separate discussion)

(I agree it, as it was really tricky to write my draft regarding it :-)

> > The most important value of the current 5987 is that
...
> > denies almost all kinds of character encoding negotiations).
> 
> We'll keep the recommendation to mark the use of the encoding by appending "*"
> to the parameter name, if that's what you're concerned about.

Hmm, what a "recommendation" means for me is important.
Restructuring the definitions is no matter and OK for me.

It can be optional (as it is currently), but at least
I need to be possible to say implementers, showing printed paper of RFC5987bis,
"OK, it's the "common" way written here, so let's implement 
 this translation as a common utility function."
If it looks like "someone invented to append *, it might be interesting",
it's too weak.

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