Re: [http-auth] WGLC on the MutualAuth drafts

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Thu, 07 July 2016 14:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [http-auth] WGLC on the MutualAuth drafts
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On 2016-07-07 16:14, 大岩寛 wrote:
> Dear Julian,
>
>>> Dear Julian,
>>>
>>> My understanding of your message is that you'll just define the value
>>> encoding of I18n string, and all RFCs referring it must say, for
>>> example, "the value of parameter foo will be encoded by RFC5987bis,
>>> like foo=UTF-8''caf%C3%89 ."
>>> Is it right? If not, please forgive me and skip the rest of my message.
>>
>> Something like that.
>>
>> (did you want to say "foo*" here?)
>
> Dropping of * is intentional, to mean "someone only uses encoded values,
> without the field extending mechanism by appending *."

OK, not sure this is a good idea, though.

>> The problem is that there isn't a generic parameter framework. For instance,
>> header fields differ in whitespace and error handling.
>>
>> (I agree that it would be good if there was something like that, but that's
>> a separate discussion)
>
> (I agree it, as it was really tricky to write my draft regarding it :-)
>
>>> The most important value of the current 5987 is that
> ...
>>> denies almost all kinds of character encoding negotiations).
>>
>> We'll keep the recommendation to mark the use of the encoding by appending "*"
>> to the parameter name, if that's what you're concerned about.
>
> Hmm, what a "recommendation" means for me is important.
> Restructuring the definitions is no matter and OK for me.
>
> It can be optional (as it is currently), but at least
> I need to be possible to say implementers, showing printed paper of RFC5987bis,
> "OK, it's the "common" way written here, so let's implement
>  this translation as a common utility function."
> If it looks like "someone invented to append *, it might be interesting",
> it's too weak.

Well, feel free to provide feedback on rfc5987bis so we can get this right.

Best regards, Julian