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Re: MITM and proxy messages [was: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http]

nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net Mon, 08 August 2016 06:54 UTC

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Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 08:30:58 +0200
From: nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net
To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Cc: "Walter H." <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
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Subject: Re: MITM and proxy messages [was: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http]
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Hi Martin,

Yes branding sucks but users want branding so at least define an embedded data: logo with strict limits on size and format.

Sure that can be abused via image parsing bugs but real life is a compromise. Browsers routinely accept much worse via wab fonts urls

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

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