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Re: Fwd: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http

"Adrien de Croy" <adrien@qbik.com> Wed, 03 August 2016 22:03 UTC

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To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
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In our customer base, the biggest driver to deploy MitM is the refusal 
of browsers to display block pages from denied CONNECT requests.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To: "Patrick McManus" <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
Cc: "tjw ietf" <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>; "HTTP Working Group" 
<ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Sent: 4/08/2016 2:25:44 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http

>--------
>In message 
><CAOdDvNqX438A48aWf8x=oV1qwKKtXzX5ZhZo7gD_MVKc7K6OFA@mail.gmail.com>, 
>Patrick McManus writes:
>
>>of course, IP-over-DNS is a typical desperate tunnel of last result to 
>>run
>>https.. combined with dns over h2 that could give you
>>h2-over-tls-over-tcp-over-ip-over-dns-over-h2-over-tls-over-tcp-over-ip.
>>I'm sure that would be totally fine from a congestion and flow control 
>>pov :(
>
>It would be *so* much more productive to try to tackle these problems
>as the political human-rights issues they are, than stacking boxed 
>higher
>and higher trying to cross over the walls people erect.
>
>The one sure result from tunnelling more and more through HTTPS is that
>HTTPS will be MiTM'd and blocked more and more.
>
>--
>Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
>phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
>FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
>Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by 
>incompetence.
>

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