Re: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http

tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 03 August 2016 00:59 UTC

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Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:47:01 -0400
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Martin,

I think one of the things which came up during the discussion was to drop
port 80 all together.

I'm circling back with the authors and I know we've covered this ground so
I'll work with them to summarize.

There was another draft which discussed various methods of DNS over HTTP
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shane-review-dns-over-http/

We didn't choose to put it up for adoption, but it may be worthy to merge
some of that into this document.

thanks
tim


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It would be really awesome if someone could summarize the reasons that
> the alternative proposals (those cited in the doc) were not adopted.
> I see a few red flags in the doc:
>
> "The protocol is intended to serve as a sort of DNS VPN" -- there's a
> long history of abuse of HTTP of exactly this form; probably because
> it's easier.  See the above question regarding potentially better
> alternatives.
>
> "in this approach wire-format data is wrapped with a HTTP header and
> transmitted on port 80 or 443."  -- two things: the wire format seems
> to go in the body; and using port 80 is a terrible idea.
>
> I don't see any reason that this needs to use a .well-known resource.
>
> What happens when you get a response where the ID doesn't match the
> request?
>
>
> On 3 August 2016 at 10:23, tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Happy HTTP folks
> >
> > This draft came up in Buenos Aires and there was interest in the group
> from
> > contributing.  I was double booked in Berlin and wasn't able to attend,
> but
> > mnot politely reminded me about this.
> >
> > The draft went through adoption and has been adopted by DNSOP.  It's
> still
> > can be worked on, and any and all comments on the ideas etc would be
> happily
> > accepted.
> >
> > thanks
> > tim
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:33 PM
> > Subject: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
> > To: dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
> >
> >
> > This starts an official Call for Adoption for
> >          draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
> >
> > The draft is available here:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-dns-wireformat-http/
> >
> > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption
> by
> > DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
> >
> > Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
> >
> > We wanted this Call to coincide with the Berlin meeting so if there is
> > opinions that needed to be voiced, they can do so.
> >
> > This call for adoption ends: 25 July 2016
> >
> > Thanks,
> > tim wicinski
> > DNSOP co-chair
> >
>