Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> Wed, 01 December 2010 09:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake
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John Tamplin wrote: > > Should we consider initially supporting only port 443?> > The downsides would be: [...] > * some CPU overhead (though Google publications have indicated this > is very low) * Memory overhead. It's not unreasonable to consider a large WebSocket server handling on the order of a million persistent connections. TLS adds considerably to the minimum memory required to maintain each socket, if those sockets are set to the minimum buffer size (to save memory) because they are mostly idle carrying occasional tiny messages, and used just so the server can send a notification to the client. TLS also seems to rule out transparent multiplexing (done by proxies) to aggregate connections and keepalives, though there is no consensus in favour of that anyway (and I'm not sure it _really_ rules it out). -- Jamie
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- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
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- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Joe Mason
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- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
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- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Joe Hildebrand
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- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Adam Barth
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Willy Tarreau
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [hybi] Moving to a CONNECT-based handshake Adam Barth
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