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Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bray-unichars-04.txt

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Fri, 22 September 2023 18:44 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:44:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [I18ndir] [art] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bray-unichars-04.txt
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 9:56 AM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, it depends on whether you need to interoperate with the Web. This
> can mean not only detecting the "toxic waste" code points, but accepting
> them. That seems straightforward to me. I think the other protocols and
> subsets are a better idea in other situations.
>

I made a little demo of this issue. It even uses the replacement character
suggestion when necessary. (click the "Run" button there).
<
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/play?id=cEMCQ8oHy5PKPGKtcL%2BtI2UqLjbPNVE7Ev4sDtNUOvuUyhpD%2Fj%2FXhtCeArh%2F9bzWu8pEgF5vOr%2BFsx2M
>

Since strings in some languages and systems are Unicode strings, but not
necessarily well-formed UTF-8 or UTF-16, it can make sense to transmit text
of this sort.

thanks,
Rob

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