Re: [I2nsf] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-12: (with DISCUSS)

[Roman Danyliw <[e-mail]>]

Hi Martin!

This document has been (completely) removed from the upcoming telechat agenda, and the document is back in the WG.  It will come back only after another the updates are done, another WG LC, IETC LC, Directorate review, etc.

Roman

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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-12: (with DISCUSS)

So do I understand correctly that this is going to defer from next telechat, and I should review it at a later time?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:18 AM Roman Danyliw <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Hi Magnus!

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> Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-
> data-model-12: (with DISCUSS)
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 11:08 -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
> > Magnus:
> >
> > Do you have specific transport people that you have assigned to work
> > on this review?
>
> No, I missed that Roman had deferred this document and tried to look at it and
> was personally unable to review it due to lack of content of what was intended.
> There are not enought there to even understand what the high level purpose
> was for those features related to transport protocol.
>
> I think this should be reviewed by a TSVART reviewer. I have requested a
> review, as this document was unfortuantely missed by the triage.

The I2NSF chairs and I chatted earlier today to define a plan.  I'm going to be sending the document back to the WG to digest all of the IESG feedback; and define an approach to harmonize the information and data model drafts.

When this comes back for IETF LC, I'll request a TSVART reviewer.

Regards,
Roman

> >
> > It would probably be more effective to discuss these issues point by
> > point with the reviewers.
> > As Paul has indicated, we would like to your issues in the context of
> > the high level capabilities of this  model.
>
> >
> > Thank you for letting us know you felt it was too high level and did
> > not have text to map to transport layer values.  Paul and his students
> > have implemented this to specific transport layer values to our view that it
> > could be implemented.    It is always difficult in a higher level data model
> > to determine how much detail to put in.   We'd love to work this issue with
> > your expert.
>
> Yes, I most definitely thought it was only alluding to some function related to
> particular protocol.
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus Westerlund
>
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