Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IETF trust
"Leslie Daigle" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> Thu, 21 January 2016 15:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IETF trust
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[Jari wrote:] > My plan is that the coordination group needs to come up with mutually > acceptable principal terms. Once we have those, we can take the matter > further. In the IETF system the IETF Trust and the IAOC is the one > responsible for final approval of the agreements. But we will keep the > community updated as well. If anyone has feedback on the early draft > terms, the trustees and the small coordination group would certainly > appreciate feedback. My understanding is that this is moving forward on a pretty aggressive timeline (needed for the overall IANA transition timeline) — so, if you have comments to share with trustees and the small coordination group, sooner is definitely best. Leslie. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- On 20 Jan 2016, at 18:33, Jari Arkko wrote: > Folks, > > For information, I wanted to provide a small update on the question of > trademarks and domains related to the IANA arrangements. As you may > recall, the IETF proposal chose to not make any particular > requirements related to moving to handling them in any particular way. > But the RIR community proposal and later the full ICG proposal wanted > to move them to a location independent of the IANA operator, possibly > the IETF Trust: > http://www.ianacg.org/icg-files/documents/IANA-transition-proposal-v9.pdf > > At the time we had said that it would be in principle OK, subject to > details to be determined and agreed upon. The ICANN board also noted > that they would be OK with moves, if agreed by the operational > communities: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-08-15-en > > Later we had circulated a framework that explained what types of > agreements would be necessary to move the trademarks and domains to > the IETF Trust: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ianaplan/gbPZgVdXAKIQKJRM1po6Nbod-6w > > And now to 2016. Earlier this month the names community CWG has made a > tentative decision that they would in principle be OK with this > arrangement: > http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/cwg-stewardship/2016-January/004603.html > > As a result, the three communities are now coordinating to see if we > can set this arrangement up. From the IETF Andrew and me are part of a > small coordination group. A mailing list is being set up with public > archives for the coordination group, and I will share the link as soon > as I have it. As a part of these discussions, I have shared an early > draft for principal terms associated with the relevant agreements (a > copy at the end of this email). This is being discussed and probably > significantly revised, but it is a start. The most important thing is > to ensure that the agreement between the OCs and the IETF Trust have > the sufficient and proper rights for the parties. For instance, that > the OCs have the rights they need to control and use the IANA > trademarks and domains for their purposes. And yet, the usual > IETF-only operation of the IETF Trust should not be affected. > > My plan is that the coordination group needs to come up with mutually > acceptable principal terms. Once we have those, we can take the matter > further. In the IETF system the IETF Trust and the IAOC is the one > responsible for final approval of the agreements. But we will keep the > community updated as well. If anyone has feedback on the early draft > terms, the trustees and the small coordination group would certainly > appreciate feedback. > > Jari > > —— > > Example Principal Terms of Intellectual Property Agreements > > This draft relates to a possible use of IETF Trust as an independent > entity to hold IANA-related IPR. The IETF Trust is one of the > discussed alternative holders of IPR. > > This non-binding draft has been prepared in order to assist in > discussion only. No offer to enter into a binding agreement is > expressed or implied herein. The IETF Trust has provided this draft as > a hopefully helpful initial contribution, but clearly discussion in > the various communities and further work is needed. Comments are > appreciated. > > A. Background > > The ICG proposal indicates that the IANA trademark and iana.org domain > should be transferred to an entity independent of the IANA Numbering > Services Operator. > > The IETF Trust would be a potentially acceptable candidate for this > role, and the Trust has discussed the implications of assuming this > responsibility. The following is some background of the Trust’s > position and an overview of how the role and responsibilities may be > fulfilled. > > While this fulfillment is a part of implementation rather than the ICG > proposal, the IETF Trust wants to ensure progress on determining those > implementation steps. The Trust is of course only one of the possible > ways to satisfy the requirements from the ICG proposal. Nevertheless, > the Trust wanted to start by suggesting an overall framework for one > way of satisfying the requirements. > > The IETF Trust is a Virginia USA private trust, the trustees of which > are the members of the IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC), > and the beneficiary of which is the IETF community. The purpose of > the IETF Trust includes acquiring, holding, maintaining and licensing > certain existing and future intellectual property and other property > used in connection with the Internet standards process and its > administration, for the advancement of the science and technology > associated with the Internet and related technology. > > B. Framework > > The Trust believes it would need to enter into three different types > of agreements to effect the transfer of the IANA intellectual property > (IP) and to enter into licensing arrangements with the IANA service > provider(s). > > These agreements include: > > 1. An Agreement between ICANN and the IETF Trust transferring the > IANA IP to the IETF Trust > > 2. Community Assurance Agreements between the IETF Trust and each of > the names, numbers, and protocol communities (the IANA communities) > regarding the Trust’s commitments to each as further described > below, and > > 3. Agreement(s) whereby the IETF Trust provides for the use of the > iana.org domain, or a subdomain, and licenses the use of the IANA > trademarks to the IANA service provider(s) selected by the IANA > communities. > > The Trust understands that each community would need to follow its own > internal processes before entering into any agreements, or selecting > an IANA service provider. The same is true of the Trust itself. > > The Community Assurance Agreements with the IANA communities would > establish and recognize the responsibilities for each community to > identify and enter into agreement with their selected service > provider, and for the IETF Trust to provide, update, and revoke > licenses as needed to support these selections. > > In order to preserve the value and integrity of the IANA trademarks, > the IETF Trust would maintain, license and monitor the use of the > trademarks. Trust actions would include enforcement against > unauthorized users and monitoring the quality and uses by the licensed > user(s). The Trust would work with the relevant IANA communities to > address issues involving a licensee before taking action to maintain > the quality of the trademarks. > > C. Terms > > The following contains examples of the principal terms that may need > to be included in such agreements should the community desire for the > IETF Trust to take on the role of the Independent Entity. This > non-binding draft has been prepared in order to assist in discussion > only. No offer to enter into a binding agreement is expressed or > implied herein. > > C.1. IP Transfer Agreement (between ICANN and IETF Trust) > > a. When requested by the IETF Trust, ICANN will transfer and assign > all of its rights in and to the IANA IP, including all goodwill > therein, to the IETF Trust (the “Transfer”). The IETF Trust will > not assume any obligations or liabilities of ICANN that arose prior to > the Transfer. > > b. ICANN will file all necessary assignment documentation with all > local, national and regional offices in which the IANA IP is > registered including, without limitation, the U.S. Patent and > Trademark Office and the registrar for iana.org (GoDaddy), and will > pay all fees associated with such filings. With respect to iana.org > and any other domain names within the IANA IP, the IETF Trust will be > designated as the administrative contact with the registrar. > > c. ICANN will make customary representations and warranties to the > IETF Trust regarding title to the IANA IP, absence of actual or > threatened litigation, the existence of any licenses or other > encumbrances on the IANA IP, and non-infringement of third party > rights, all qualified by the knowledge of ICANN’s in-house legal > department. > > d. ICANN will indemnify the IETF Trust, PTI and any future licensee > of the IANA IP against any liability associated with use of the IANA > IP prior to the Transfer Date. The IETF Trust will indemnify ICANN > and any prior licensee of the IANA IP against any liability associated > with use of the IANA IP after the Transfer Date to the extent that > IETF Trust receives a comparable indemnity from PTI or its successor > entity. > > C.2. Community Assurance Agreement (between IETF Trust, IETF, RIRs, > and the names community) > > a. This Agreement will ensure that the IETF Trust holds and licenses > the IANA IP in a manner that is agreed with the IETF, RIRs and the > names community. > > b. For purposes of this Agreement, the RIRs, the IETF and the names > community will each select a single Representative to be the point of > contact with the IETF Trust on matters pertaining to the IANA IP, > collectively the “IANA IP Reps”. > > c. The IETF Trust will hold, maintain and renew the IANA IP in > accordance with good IP management practices and shall seek new > territorial registrations based on the IANA IP as instructed by the > IANA IP Reps. > > d. The IETF Trust will license the IANA IP to PTI and any successor > provider(s) of the IANA functions identified by the IANA IP Reps. Such > license shall include the provisions described in Part III below. The > IETF Trust will terminate the license to PTI or any successor upon the > instructions of the IANA IP Reps. > > C.3. IANA IP License Agreement (between IETF Trust and PTI) > > a. The IETF Trust will grant PTI a non-exclusive, worldwide, > royalty-free license, without the right to sublicense, to display and > reproduce the IANA marks in connection with its provision and > marketing of the IANA functions. > > b. All use of the IANA marks shall be in accordance with > mutually-agreed quality requirements, as well as size, color, > placement and similar guidelines to be agreed. > > c. The IETF Trust will authorize PTI to operate via the iana.org > domain and any number of sub-domains. IETF Trust shall appoint PTI as > the technical contact for the iana.org domain during the term of the > agreement. PTI shall use iana.org and all associated subdomains > exclusively for purposes of offering the IANA functions. > > d. All goodwill arising from use of the IANA IP will inure to the > benefit of the IETF Trust, and PTI will not register or reserve any > mark that contains, is identical or confusingly similar to any IANA > mark in any jurisdiction, whether as a trademark, service mark, trade > name or domain name. > > e. The IETF Trust will have the sole right to enforce the IANA marks > against infringers, at its expense. PTI will use reasonable efforts > to notify IETF Trust of any such infringement that comes to its > attention. IETF Trust will be entitled to retain all damages received > as a result of its enforcement of the IANA marks. > > f. The IETF Trust will be entitled to terminate the agreement, > without penalty, following a material breach by PTI which is not cured > within 30 days following notice thereof, an insolvency or bankruptcy > event by PTI, the involvement of PTI or any of its officers or > directors in any criminal, civil or regulatory proceeding or > investigation that is likely, in IETF Trust’s opinion, to tarnish > the IANA marks or the reputation of IETF, the termination, expiration > or non-renewal of the PTI Service Agreement(s), or upon the express > instruction of the IANA IP Reps. > > g. Upon termination of the agreement, PTI will immediately cease all > use of the IANA IP and shall transfer technical control of the > iana.org domain to the IETF Trust. > _______________________________________________ > Ianaplan mailing list > Ianaplan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan
- [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IET… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Leslie Daigle
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Konstantinos Komaitis
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Dan Schlitt
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Andrei Robachevsky
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Russ Housley
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