Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IETF trust
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Wed, 17 February 2016 18:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IETF trust
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Dear colleagues, On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 05:16:47PM +0200, Jari Arkko wrote: > https://www.nro.net/pipermail/iana-ipr/ I will note that if you want to follow that list now as a subscriber, you can. You too can get our deathless discussion of IPR issues delivered directly to your INBOX! (It's still closed posting, however.) We've also started work on a document of principles. The draft is not complete yet, and there are still some issues to work out, but I at least would be extremely happy to hear remarks about what you see there, if you have time to read and comment. You can see the document at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4ad4/edit?usp=sharing. Unfortunately, it seems that in Google docs when you have read-only access you can't see the comments either. There are a couple issues that I think are quite important still to sort out. First, there's a set of things about the registration of iana.org. The goal here is to use a registrar that can require multiple approvals from different parties before changes are made. That way the IANA operator can have (and be assured of) technical control of the domain while the registration is yet held by the Trust. I know there is at least one regisrtar that offers this sort of service (Network Solutions, "Web Lock"), but if there are more I'd be happy to hear about it so that we could point that out. Second, there's the issue of the exclusive vs. non-exclusive license. We have some registries that we treat as IANA registries but that are strictly speaking not. The enum registry, for instance, is not operated by IANA. Also, according to RFC 6557 the TZ Database is operated by ICANN as if it were an IANA function under the IETF-ICANN MoU but it is carefully called out as not an IANA function. I'm not sure whether this affects the license discussion (I'll be seeking expert legal advice on this, but I wanted to note it as unsettled business). Third, and perhaps most important, is the discussion in 3.g. There's a tricky problem here. The Trust will own the trademarks. Under trademark law, this means that the Trust will have a duty and a right to enforce uses of the trademark. So, if the Trust thinks that there's a problem and it's gone unresolved, the Trust needs to be able (in its sole discretion) to cancel the trademakk license to an IANA operator. At the same time, we want the individual operational communities to have the power to select their operators. The key thing here in 3.g. is to see whether the balance is right given what we want and the constraints of trademark law. Obviously, any comments are welcome, but those are some substantive issues that I think need attention. Remember that this is not a contract, but a set of principles under which we're going to work out the final arrangements. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IET… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Leslie Daigle
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Konstantinos Komaitis
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Dan Schlitt
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Andrei Robachevsky
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Avri Doria
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… JFC Morfin
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… John Levine
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains &… Russ Housley
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