Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IETF trust

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 24 January 2016 20:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] update on trademarks and domains & IETF trust
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For the most part I agree with the positive comments.

>c.  The IETF Trust will hold, maintain and renew the IANA IP in accordance with good IP management practices and
>shall seek new territorial registrations based on the IANA IP as instructed by the IANA IP Reps.

I wouldn't be comfortable with "as instructed by" because I've seen
some impressively odd stuff from ICANN's lawyers.  Also, there's the
chronic problem of lawyers telling you to spend $1000 to avoid a $100
risk.  (These are specifically not directed at the IETF's lawyer, who
understands things just fine.)

I'd suggest "in consulation with" or similar language, to indicate
that the trust will listen to them but not take orders from them.  

As likely as not, it's not even legal to take orders from them, since
that leads to perverse results if one of the IP reps tells the trust
to do something that the trustees consider contrary to the purpose of
the trust or not in the interest of the other beneficiaries.

R's,
John