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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 21 March 2017 19:07 UTC

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On 21/03/17 19:04, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 3/21/2017 12:01 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>> And indeed I see the meetings ctte is now split into staff
>> and volunteer member lists which is a good start. (I forget
>> if that split is new or not.)
>>
>> But even in that case, it's not clear who does what. I can
> 
> 
> Clarifying these, and ensuring that ongoing efforts conform to those
> clarifications, is certainly appropriate to do.
> 
> But I believe it will have almost no effect on confusion about
> authority, roles and accountability, between the IETF and ISOC.
> 
> That involves inter-organization clarity (between IETF and ISOC), not
> within-organization (IETF) committee clarification.

I agree these are different tasks. And they're not the only
two separable things worth doing as part of the work here.

S.

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> d/
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