Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-workshops-report-00.txt
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 21 March 2017 18:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-workshops-report-00.txt
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Hiya, On 21/03/17 17:26, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > That's not quite what I was getting at; and I do believe that responsibilities > can and should be well-defined. My point was that, having observed the IETF > and various other organisations with a mixture of professional and volunteer > effort, there is *always* a lack of crispness about what actually gets done > by the volunteers as opposed to staff. That's just a result of human nature > and the motivations and incentives that are at work. I'm not saying it's a > bad thing, either, but it's life. I think we ought analyse and improve even though perfection is unattainable. When I first looked over the list of IAOC cttes and their members this was one of the first things that struck me. I couldn't figure out who on which ctte does what from outside, not who really calls the shots. I happen to think ending up in that kind of situation after 10 years of operating is not at all strange, in fact it's entirely understandable. I'd not suggest we invent one rule to rule them all type of arrangement for all cttes, but just that someone tries to characterise, for each ctte, how different volunteer/staff roles are handled now. I'd bet a beer we discover stuff we'd like to change if we do do that. Cheers, S.
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Matthew Ford
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Randy Bush
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Randy Bush
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] I-D Action: draft-hall-iasa20-worksh… Brian E Carpenter