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Re: [Iasa20] Memo exploring options for IASA 2.0 models

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Fri, 16 February 2018 23:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Memo exploring options for IASA 2.0 models
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Andrew,

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:20:53AM +1300, Brian Carpenter wrote:
> 
>> Have we tried the cheap fix, which is a carefully written primer for
>> potential sponsors?
> 
> Imagine I am coming to you, asking you to do me a favour, and you say,
> "But you are from Sumach St, and I already did the residents of Sumach
> St favour."  If my response is, "Here, please read this explanation of
> how my residence on Sumach St is not like all the other residences of
> Sumach St," then I am asking you to do me _two_ favours.  This way
> success does not lie.

Seems to me that as long as ISOC provides most of the support for the IETF (and I think that true in each options presented), doesn’t this just morph into "ISOC is paying for the IETF, I gave money to the ISOC, why are you asking me again?".  Unless we are financially independent of ISOC, I don’t think moving to a new entity will really change this.

Bob

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