Re: [icnrg] [IANA #1280061] expert review for draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering (ccnx)

Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Fri, 29 September 2023 10:48 UTC

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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
To: "David R. Oran" <daveoran@orandom.net>
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Subject: Re: [icnrg] [IANA #1280061] expert review for draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering (ccnx)
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Dave/IANA,

Is this something that needs to be clarified in the draft or is this 
email discussion sufficient?
Colin



On 29 Sep 2023, at 2:14, David R. Oran wrote:

> See below - IANA does not manage the registries for NDN. The NDN 
> community and NDN research project does.
> ___________________________
> iDevice - please excuse typos.
>
>> On Sep 28, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Amanda Baber via RT 
>> <drafts-expert-review@iana.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hitoshi (cc: ICNRG),
>>
>> Does the new version of the document (published today) address your 
>> concerns?
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering-06
>>
>> There is an issue for us: the IANA Considerations section has removed 
>> the request to register four of the five entries in Table 2, but 
>> Table 2 itself hasn't been removed, and is labeled "TLV-TYPE number 
>> assignments for NDN," which seems to indicate an action for IANA.
>>
> No, IANA is not needed to do assignments for NDN.
>
> Thanks!
>
>> thanks,
>> Amanda
>>
>>> On Tue Sep 12 05:58:50 2023, asaeda@nict.go.jp wrote:
>>> Hi folks and pathsteering draft authors,
>>>
>>> I reviewed the pathsteering draft and have couple of comments.
>>>
>>> At first I'd like to ask about the following Table 2 mentioned in
>>> section 3.3 (Path label encoding for NDN).
>>>
>>> Flag    (Suggested) Value (hex)
>>> T_PATH_LABEL    0x0A
>>> T_PATH_LABEL_FLAGS      0x0B
>>> T_PATH_LABEL_BITMAP     0x0D
>>> T_PATH_LABEL_NEXTHOP_LABEL      0x0E
>>> T_PATH_LABEL_HOP_COUNT  0x0F
>>>
>>> Table 2: TLV-TYPE number assignments
>>>
>>> Except T_PATH_LABEL, there are no explanation about these types in
>>> this draft. What are these labels used? It is necessary to explain 
>>> all
>>> of these types and scenarios how they use.
>>> Even though this section title is with NDN (not CCNx), you are 
>>> asking
>>> the IANA assignment for these five type values in CCNx registry. You
>>> may want to move this table to a different section.
>>>
>>> In IANA consideration section, the authors say;
>>> "1. Please assign the value 0x0004 (if still available) for
>>> T_PATH_LABEL in the CCNx Hop-by-Hop Types registry established by
>>> [RFC8609]."
>>> But 0x0004 is already reserved by rfc8609, meaning it is not
>>> available. Instead you can request 0x000A. BTW, you mentioned
>>> T_PATH_LABEL in Table 2. Are they same even though you assigned
>>> different values in this section (0x0004) and Table 2 (0x0A)?
>>>
>>> "4. Please create the CCNx Path Label Flags registry and assign the
>>> values listed in Table 1. The registration procedure for this 
>>> registry
>>> should be "Specification Required" as defined in [RFC8126]."
>>> My question is where the CCNx Path Label Flags are specified in a
>>> CCNx packet? Under which TLV field, this new TLV field is encoded?
>>>
>>> Going back to section 3.1 (Path label TLV), two type values,
>>> T_RETURN_INVALID_PATH_LABEL and T_RETURN_MALFORMED_INTEREST, are
>>> defined for interest return. But only T_RETURN_INVALID_PATH_LABEL is
>>> mentioned in the IANA section.
>>>
>>> I think it is necessary to revise the draft.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Hitoshi
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 5, 2023, at 3:36, Amanda Baber via RT <drafts-expert-
>>>> review@iana.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hitoshi  (cc: ICNRG),
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, looks like I didn't copy the list on my initial request!
>>>> Adding them now.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Amanda
>>>>
>>>> On Sun Sep 03 06:29:48 2023, asaeda@nict.go.jp wrote:
>>>>> Dear Amanda,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll reply you before Sep. 14.
>>>>> (Were your mail sent to ICNRG ML?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitoshi
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023, at 9:52, Amanda Baber via RT <drafts-expert-
>>>>>> review@iana.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Hitoshi (cc: ICNRG),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a designated expert for the "CCNx Interest Return Code Types"
>>>>>> registry, can you review the proposed registration in this 
>>>>>> document
>>>>>> for us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The due date is September 14th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is OK, when we're asked to implement the registry actions
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> this document, we'll make the registration at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ccnx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amanda Baber
>>>>>> IANA Operations Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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