Re: [icnrg] [IANA #1280061] expert review for draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering (ccnx)

Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Fri, 29 September 2023 18:23 UTC

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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
To: Amanda Baber via RT <drafts-expert-review@iana.org>
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Subject: Re: [icnrg] [IANA #1280061] expert review for draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering (ccnx)
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Hi Amanda,

Thanks! It looks like this should be good to progress and we'll ensure 
the URL is fixed as part of the RFC Editor process.

Colin



On 29 Sep 2023, at 18:53, Amanda Baber via RT wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> If it'll be clear to readers that IANA doesn't maintain an NDN 
> registry, we're OK with the current text.
>
> One nit: in the Informative References section, the URL for [NDNTLV] 
> is returning a 404 (looks like the issue is the "index.html").
>
> thanks,
> Amanda
>
> On Fri Sep 29 10:48:54 2023, csp@csperkins.org wrote:
>> Dave/IANA,
>>
>> Is this something that needs to be clarified in the draft or is this
>> email discussion sufficient?
>> Colin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2023, at 2:14, David R. Oran wrote:
>>
>>> See below - IANA does not manage the registries for NDN. The NDN
>>> community and NDN research project does.
>>> ___________________________
>>> iDevice - please excuse typos.
>>>
>>>> On Sep 28, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Amanda Baber via RT
>>>> <drafts-expert-review@iana.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hitoshi (cc: ICNRG),
>>>>
>>>> Does the new version of the document (published today) address your
>>>> concerns?
>>>>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering-06
>>>>
>>>> There is an issue for us: the IANA Considerations section has 
>>>> removed
>>>> the request to register four of the five entries in Table 2, but
>>>> Table 2 itself hasn't been removed, and is labeled "TLV-TYPE number
>>>> assignments for NDN," which seems to indicate an action for IANA.
>>>>
>>> No, IANA is not needed to do assignments for NDN.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Amanda
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue Sep 12 05:58:50 2023, asaeda@nict.go.jp wrote:
>>>>> Hi folks and pathsteering draft authors,
>>>>>
>>>>> I reviewed the pathsteering draft and have couple of comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> At first I'd like to ask about the following Table 2 mentioned in
>>>>> section 3.3 (Path label encoding for NDN).
>>>>>
>>>>> Flag    (Suggested) Value (hex)
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL    0x0A
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL_FLAGS      0x0B
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL_BITMAP     0x0D
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL_NEXTHOP_LABEL      0x0E
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL_HOP_COUNT  0x0F
>>>>>
>>>>> Table 2: TLV-TYPE number assignments
>>>>>
>>>>> Except T_PATH_LABEL, there are no explanation about these types in
>>>>> this draft. What are these labels used? It is necessary to explain
>>>>> all
>>>>> of these types and scenarios how they use.
>>>>> Even though this section title is with NDN (not CCNx), you are
>>>>> asking
>>>>> the IANA assignment for these five type values in CCNx registry. 
>>>>> You
>>>>> may want to move this table to a different section.
>>>>>
>>>>> In IANA consideration section, the authors say;
>>>>> "1. Please assign the value 0x0004 (if still available) for
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL in the CCNx Hop-by-Hop Types registry established by
>>>>> [RFC8609]."
>>>>> But 0x0004 is already reserved by rfc8609, meaning it is not
>>>>> available. Instead you can request 0x000A. BTW, you mentioned
>>>>> T_PATH_LABEL in Table 2. Are they same even though you assigned
>>>>> different values in this section (0x0004) and Table 2 (0x0A)?
>>>>>
>>>>> "4. Please create the CCNx Path Label Flags registry and assign 
>>>>> the
>>>>> values listed in Table 1. The registration procedure for this
>>>>> registry
>>>>> should be "Specification Required" as defined in [RFC8126]."
>>>>> My question is where the CCNx Path Label Flags are specified in a
>>>>> CCNx packet? Under which TLV field, this new TLV field is encoded?
>>>>>
>>>>> Going back to section 3.1 (Path label TLV), two type values,
>>>>> T_RETURN_INVALID_PATH_LABEL and T_RETURN_MALFORMED_INTEREST, are
>>>>> defined for interest return. But only T_RETURN_INVALID_PATH_LABEL 
>>>>> is
>>>>> mentioned in the IANA section.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it is necessary to revise the draft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hitoshi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2023, at 3:36, Amanda Baber via RT <drafts-expert-
>>>>>> review@iana.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hitoshi  (cc: ICNRG),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, looks like I didn't copy the list on my initial request!
>>>>>> Adding them now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun Sep 03 06:29:48 2023, asaeda@nict.go.jp wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Amanda,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll reply you before Sep. 14.
>>>>>>> (Were your mail sent to ICNRG ML?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hitoshi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2023, at 9:52, Amanda Baber via RT <drafts-expert-
>>>>>>>> review@iana.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Hitoshi (cc: ICNRG),
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a designated expert for the "CCNx Interest Return Code 
>>>>>>>> Types"
>>>>>>>> registry, can you review the proposed registration in this
>>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>> for us?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The due date is September 14th.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this is OK, when we're asked to implement the registry 
>>>>>>>> actions
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> this document, we'll make the registration at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ccnx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amanda Baber
>>>>>>>> IANA Operations Manager
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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