Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Route Target
Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com> Wed, 21 May 2014 15:07 UTC
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From: Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com>
To: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
Thread-Topic: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Route Target
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Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:07:32 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Route Target
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I am for 1. No RT, no RT-C filtering. Moreover, for ANY address family (including RT-C) if an UPDATE includes an RT, then RT-C filter it. No special exceptions if an RT-C UPDATE contains the same RT in the NLRI and the attribute field. -- Jakob Heitz. > On May 21, 2014, at 5:48 AM, "Jeffrey Haas" <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote: > > IDR, > > RFC 4684 (Constrained Route Target Distribution) is obviously a useful tool. > At work, we've run into an interesting case and I thought I'd share some of > the internal debate on it. > > In RFC 6037 ("draft-rosen" multicast VPNs), the MDT SAFI has the following > documentation in section 4.4: > > : When a PE distributes this NLRI via BGP, it may include a Route > : Target (RT) Extended Communities attribute. This RT must be an > : "Import RT" [RFC4364] of each VRF in the MD. The ordinary BGP > : distribution procedures used by [RFC4364] will then ensure that each > : PE learns the MDT-SAFI "address" of each of the other PEs in the MD, > : and that the learned MDT-SAFI addresses get associated with the right > : VRFs. > > RFC 4684's procedure says in section 6: > : A VPN NLRI route should be advertised to a peer that participates in > : the exchange of Route Target membership information if that peer has > : advertised either the default Route Target membership NLRI or a Route > : Target membership NLRI containing any of the targets contained in the > : extended communities attribute of the VPN route in question. > > Quite frankly, we have a bug in that MDT's are not getting propagated when > RT-C is in use because we're treating it as a "VPN NLRI". Simple fix, but > one that leaves me wondering if the issue is more general - and perhaps > worthy of an errata for RFC 4684. > > For the MDT case, one can make the argument that since it may be distributed > without RTs, it's only a "VPN NLRI" if it contains RTs. > > The broader question I'd put to the working group is whether any NLRI not > having RTs isn't really a "VPN NLRI" for purposes of RT-C filtering. This > really leaves two simple schools of thought: > 1. No RT, no RT-C filtering. > 2. MDT SAFI is an odd-ball case, just deal with that. (And perhaps warn in > future BGP documents that may use RT-C about how to deal with no RTs when > they're optional.) > > -- Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr
- [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Route Ta… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jakob Heitz
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Eric Rosen
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Eric Rosen
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Idr] RFC 4684 pedantry - routes with no Rout… Robert Raszuk