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Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com> Mon, 07 February 2022 16:50 UTC

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From: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
To: 'Job Snijders' <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities-06.txt (2/4/2022 to 2/18/2022)
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Hi Job,

    Thank you for your comments.

> As 'Atoms' appear to be a core aspect of Wide Communities, so it seems
> quite awkward to publish this document - without any implementation of
> the concept of Atoms!

    The concept of Atoms is implemented.  RouterAttr is an atom implemented.

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 11:42 AM
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Cc: 'Keyur Patel' <keyur@arrcus.com>; 'Robert Raszuk' <robert@raszuk.net>; idr@ietf.org <idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities-06.txt (2/4/2022 to 2/18/2022)

Dear Sue, others,

Thank you for your message.

On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 11:30:40AM -0500, Susan Hares wrote:
> Job:
>
> <WG Chair>
> Thank you for letting me know there are broken links
>  on the implementation page.  I believe I have addressed these issues.
> Please reload your page and let me know if there are more.
>
> I hope you will provide feedback on atoms 1-8
> as optional  features that are not implemented.
>
> In the past, the IDR has made the following choices on
> 1) remove from specification (knowing may come back as a BIS)
> 2) hold the draft for implementations of atoms 1-8.
> 3) keep optional features in the text, but note lack of
>     implementations  (rare, but possible if WG desires).
> <WG chair off>


As 'Atoms' appear to be a core aspect of Wide Communities, so it seems
quite awkward to publish this document - without any implementation of
the concept of Atoms!

To me it seems that 'option 2 - hold the draft for implementation' is
the simplest path forward, or as secondary choice 'remove from spec'.

Publication of internet-drafts which lack implementations, in my opinion
sets dangerous precedent for IDR; I hope the WG appreciates my
insistence on this matter.

Kind regards,

Job

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