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Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com> Mon, 07 February 2022 18:11 UTC

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From: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
To: 'Job Snijders' <job@fastly.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities-06.txt (2/4/2022 to 2/18/2022)
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Hi Job,

    Thank you for your comments.

> I'm increasingly confused, "RouterAttr" is a word which does not appear ...

    It seems clear in the report with the notes.  "RouterAttr" is an atom, different from atoms 1 - 8, and from the reference given.

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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To: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@futurewei.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities-06.txt (2/4/2022 to 2/18/2022)

On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:50:06PM +0000, Huaimo Chen wrote:
> Hi Job,
>
>     Thank you for your comments.
>
> > As 'Atoms' appear to be a core aspect of Wide Communities, so it seems
> > quite awkward to publish this document - without any implementation of
> > the concept of Atoms!
>
>     The concept of Atoms is implemented.  RouterAttr is an atom implemented.

I'm increasingly confused, "RouterAttr" is a word which does not appear
anywhere in: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities&amp;data=04%7C01%7Chuaimo.chen%40futurewei.com%7C1dfacdbe9f1a4cf8dafa08d9ea628e3c%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C637798531300096884%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=y6%2B5HjDtJfsJgPJOgAMIqkHwL59wJB5tcp7GNeIKj%2Bk%3D&amp;reserved=0

Furthermore, I see on https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrac.ietf.org%2Ftrac%2Fidr%2Fwiki%2Fdraft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities&amp;data=04%7C01%7Chuaimo.chen%40futurewei.com%7C1dfacdbe9f1a4cf8dafa08d9ea628e3c%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C637798531300096884%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=bcIqXss72YhiCMiNDVa24j15fUsSEmA8VoG1qz4uw3c%3D&amp;reserved=0
indeed has a reference to the word "RouterAttr", but also the wiki shows
"Atoms (1-8): Not Support | Not Support"

Perhaps at the next IDR meeting at IETF113 a coherent consistent
overview can be presented on what is and is not implemented?

Kind regards,

Job

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