Re: [Idr] [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com> Fri, 09 July 2021 23:23 UTC

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From: Lin Han <lin.han@futurewei.com>
To: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
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Hi, Hesham

The draft does not want to touch the territory of 3GPP. Having said that, all radio, signal process, coding, wireless resource management, 4G/5G integration, etc. are not in the scope of the draft.
The intention of the draft is to only address the problems and solution for satellite networking when routing and switching technologies are used.

Thanks
Lin

From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt


Hi Lin,

Is the integration of 5G and satellite networks part of your research ?. 3GPP has started the work on this integration and already has work items (WI) for Rel 17 and 18 to address this issue. There are already few recent related publications. For example, here is a recent survey: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9193893<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fdocument%2F9193893&data=04%7C01%7Clin.han%40futurewei.com%7C89587d9f2e774a787c0f08d94302285d%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C637614498840617824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BZsBixpOZ9Z2ktNZBPAU2%2FORKMJvXsoSln8MPxYmNTc%3D&reserved=0>. I am not sure if O-RAN is currently working on this issue ?

Thanks

Hesham