Re: [Idr] WGLC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-optimal-route-reflection-14

"John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net> Wed, 18 October 2017 15:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] WGLC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-optimal-route-reflection-14
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An update on this WGLC.

Tl;dr: Before we proceed forward we need to see the promised IPR declaration from Cisco, we need to hear back from Stephane about IPR, and we need to close on the question Randy raised regarding document status.

1. IPR

Serpil Bayraktar let me know a few days ago that Cisco intends to disclose IPR. The disclosure hasn't been filed yet, we will not progress the document until it has been filed and the WG has an opportunity to consider the filing. I would like to encourage the WG to wait until the filing is done before discussing further -- while we wait you may want to pass the time reviewing the IETF's policy on what is, and is not, in-scope for us to consider when discussing IPR in our work. 

Authors Robert Raszuk, Bruno Decraene, Eric Aman, Kevin Wang, and Adam Chappell have said they didn't know of any IPR. Christian Cassar said "I was not aware of any IPR. I will work with Serpil and we will get back." Stephane Litkowski hasn't answered.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-idr-bgp-optimal-route-reflection

2. Other

Support from Job Snijders, Nick Hilliard, Rajiv Asati, Serpil Bayraktar, Manish Bhardwaj, Keyur Patel, Jeff Tantsura, Acee Lindem

Review by Job Snijders, largely about route recursion, led to a discussion and update to the document. 

Note that much of the support was expressed before the IPR issue came up, and it's the individuals' prerogative to change their minds if they see fit. Support was for version -15 of the document, though, or at least was expressed subsequent to the discussion and publication of -15.

There is an unresolved question from Randy Bush as to whether the document should really be Standards Track or some other status (Informational and BCP were both mentioned).

Thanks,

--John


> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:30 PM, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> (This is the first of a series of WGLCs as we work to clear backlog. We will stagger the WGLCs somewhat.)
> 
> A working group last call has been requested for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-optimal-route-reflection-14. Please reply to the list with your comments. As usual note we cannot advance the draft without participation from the group. Please get your comments in before October 20, 2017.
> 
> Authors, please confirm that any relevant IPR has been disclosed. 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dietf-2Didr-2Dbgp-2Doptimal-2Droute-2Dreflection-2D14&d=DwICAg&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=hLt5iDJpw7ukqICc0hoT7A&m=2T8sWKXOuk1R-CTDDPFM8HO_a6AbOHGOseJ81Ht9_4Q&s=yunFv1zXtd-bLp5IQGspvPZQYpLtAFtcXdjv_vA4-rU&e= 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --John