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tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Sat, 20 April 2024 09:56 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
CC: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>
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From: heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
Sent: 19 April 2024 12:48

Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 09:51:36AM +0000, tom petch:
> I think that the draft underestimates substantially the changes needed to the base specification of the FSM.  The idea is fine but the details are lacking and that may lead to divergent implementations of what is a rather important protocol.

Aren't those details which are or can be resolved after adoption?  Including
the possibility of abandonment.

<tp>
Yes, they can but experience tells me that there is an inertia against large scale change
post-adoption and I think that in this case the change is large scale, simply adding in all the detail to the FSM based on the underlying principle.  I think too that the sharpest reviews nowadays happen pre-adoption and that there is a tendency post-adoption to let things go by.  Of course, WG Last Call is the chance to fix this but I see inertia taking over at that time.

Tom Petch

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