Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Thu, 13 November 2008 17:41 UTC
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From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP
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>>To make them all parallel in structure, the first numbered item in
>>section 3 becomes: "1. The IESG finds no conflict between this
>>document and IETF work."
>>
>>In RFC 3932, these numbered items (except the first one, which is
>>the same until the modification above) begin "The IESG
>>thinks" During pre-Last-Call-review, I received feedback that "The
>>IESG finds" was a better. Now, you propose "The IESG
>>believes". I do believe that the current wording is better than
>>the original. I'm willing to change it to something else if there
>>is consensus to do so. What do other reviewers find/think/believe/prefer?
>
>In a different message, John mentioned ""has concluded". That
>sounds better as the numbered items are about conclusions
>reached. My second preference would be "The IESG believes".
I am happy with "has concluded". The numbered list is changed as follows:
The IESG review of these Independent Stream and IRTF Stream documents
reach one of the following five types of conclusions.
1. The IESG has concluded that there is no conflict between this
document and IETF work.
2. The IESG has concluded that this work is related to IETF work done
in WG <X>, but this relationship does not prevent publishing.
3. The IESG has concluded that publication is potentially harmful to
the IETF work done in WG <X> and recommends not publishing the
document at this time.
4. The IESG has concluded that this document violates IETF procedures
for <X> and should therefore not be published without IETF review
and IESG approval.
5. The IESG has concluded that this document extends an IETF protocol
in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be
published without IETF review and IESG approval.
Russ
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- Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IES… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IES… SM
- Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IES… Russ Housley
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- Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IES… SM
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- Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IES… John C Klensin
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