Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 updates (was Re: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt)

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Mon, 22 October 2018 21:28 UTC

Return-Path: <alissa@cooperw.in>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A77127AC2; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.701
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cooperw.in header.b=kUXIX53i; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=K99c/OfV
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GOMsCKrjr7-L; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF26F126BED; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949DF21EEB; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:28:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:28:33 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h= from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date :subject:message-id:references:in-reply-to:to; s=fm1; bh=hV/Lq5n NZXABsaczk3kS8ueLv+zydR60dC0PKirhYrs=; b=kUXIX53is438gqe7kBIBHIi rUGBcpJuoRmat/bjf1PlUxMpORDFI01KEmjH/iO1h1EtexCYy00Hq9qG/TFXeebT PFvLZIYf0Gxb00kIrSboLyXJKKGkqzNgT3ubS1hZhz8po5Y9b+C8HWFDnVgZLfG4 kVN/Qn8MqLjYuiflkgrZ01aicfe5+dJpxolQuJu2e1KcJmSiJRzx1Wg+NSeigEoa zMzfNXHKnKdNYmkYG4NZ1Wx8V7oGx0WQP8TghgQdQfjHKE9/1VsNqRi4KoUhEyJW I2Z6ncJcxEQ6SHCnzUvxiHPcpk1qYW831hKMGMwS8qRd29r8kZhSm81dZtxJY4A= =
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=hV/Lq5nNZXABsaczk3kS8ueLv+zydR60dC0PKirhY rs=; b=K99c/OfVOyncviwy0oouobl0pbN79qBtVWoP7mCllRagNcn0O2aRD6Abn Xtply84fmkkcOLz7eyKSMZm+IJKiKAeOMkjyq2WT6tUbl5dEfW+sRnbOvHUmk4h9 J8oa58rp2vZWejLjvNqPPlKWEKoZKZLHHOobexJ41sCDFT5Lzpu59+2MVomnniAM NzIPEPvPtbBNf3D7/I49edX1Bl0+iMNwaBgAHTatTzf5z96tRBMSQTFviH2Ce8sA 8WhFZqMB9Xh76gGmmrYtcRkigOO1ON2/OVbO9nxJOifVMuNPDH8xsk+qB5mThP1z pfJCjPIoQ1Yr8PZFjQIPhCJitgT0w==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:AUHOWxy78HEKvdEVGIlX8B9G9QvNfsTO-ydUwQFJXLgJRi-m5m-4Hw>
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:AUHOW_KNZLlnBtt6oLeNVGpUSRkneKoHCz-iCbQkSlVbQRXYVATPaA> <xmx:AUHOW5p73WNSsRKqm-u5zp7fm4UP5GFxdRTsIz7lCsYGmS96C7Q1UA> <xmx:AUHOW1sHPJkOoHwUbiWSe02m3U42MozxuI96zGqTYybN-YTq2Reaow> <xmx:AUHOW7Ivuezo5h6FOKoAkGcUS49MjY6ORhrY8s2M0G0t50I-e7-TWA> <xmx:AUHOW8odufniCFOfbZ2G_ge23bxq-ShUcU4jC0Mt-goDCXC0kEYPjw> <xmx:AUHOW2V8Rrre9ULFOniMiB5hh3PVbNeUSQSOz3HENml6_4QMTWFdSw>
Received: from [10.140.19.199] (mobile-166-171-57-220.mycingular.net [166.171.57.220]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 130A4102DD; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:28:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:28:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 updates (was Re: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt)
Message-Id: <D7D597C1-F934-4748-9AEF-998CD8771DB5@cooperw.in>
References: <4915CD062D28D607D3D4AD44@PSB> <8906b727-f9c3-e7e1-164b-f7b88e48e74b@gmail.com> <1C77C07809EFB402E3E10907@PSB> <DE6E9C0D-C46B-4010-9E6D-8438DE687275@sobco.com> <2A42A5D2-9785-4350-92A5-0FDFD54AD17F@cable.comcast.com> <9A5B610BA33D4336A91409DA@PSB> <CABtrr-UdUaZpoy8JroUL8oNkibc=F8hJ1ksnmvar0a1x3VCNrQ@mail.gmail.com> <541E68A8540C1AB8D39A96E4@PSB> <313EA233-92B1-4D61-AECA-099ADEECD063@sobco.com>
In-Reply-To: <313EA233-92B1-4D61-AECA-099ADEECD063@sobco.com>
To: IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>, IASA 2 WG <iasa20@ietf.org>
X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16A366)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/1QPKJlIGzrfJ4hjl1zsMMI3gG6g>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:28:37 -0000

Hi,

I wanted to remind everyone that the IASA2 WG has requested publication of a total of two documents so far. All of the rest of the documents are still under discussion in the working group and will be undergoing IETF last call only after the WG requests publication and I do AD reviews. I would encourage people to continue making constructive suggestions for how to improve the documents in the WG and avoid making assumptions about authors’ motivations. Thus far we’ve had a great constructive dialogue with lots of people chipping in to do this less-than-thrilling administrative work, which is very much appreciated.

Regards,
Alissa