Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt
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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt
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Thanks, Alissa, we’ll take a look and assess this. Jason From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Date: Monday, October 22, 2018 at 5:44 AM To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Cc: "rsalz@akamai.com" <rsalz@akamai.com>, "iasa20@ietf.org" <iasa20@ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt I think 2418 can be covered under the “others can be grouped into one or a small number of documents that update several other RFCs at once” category at https://github.com/IASA2/Miscellaneous/blob/master/Document%20Work%20List.md. There are a bunch of other docs on that list for which that isn’t the right answer though. Alissa On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:27 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com<mailto:john-ietf@jck.com>> wrote: --On Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:07 +1300 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com<mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>> wrote: fwiw I agree. There is no reference to IASA in 2418, for obvious reasons. From a practical point of view, any terminology issue could be handled as an erratum with disposition "wait for update". That, IMO, would be an even better solution than creating an updating document that says "any time earlier documents say 'IETF Executive Director' replace it with..." and similar things and then hunting down the relevant documents and marking them as updated. Depending on how compulsive the WG and relevant AD are feeling, I think either would work. But we really have better ways to spend our time than replacing a process document to change a title... or at least I hope we do. Frankly, the only good reason I can see for generating all of these IASA2 documents just to change terminology is to create enough noise that the community doesn't notice and pay attention to changes that actually might be controversial. I trust and assume that is not the intent of anyone involved. john _______________________________________________ iasa20 mailing list iasa20@ietf.org<mailto:iasa20@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iasa20
- Re: draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Bob Hinden
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Scott Bradner
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt John C Klensin
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Iasa20] draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2418bis-01.txt John C Klensin
- fundamental brokenness of iasa2 updates (was Re: … Scott Bradner
- Re: fundamental brokenness of iasa2 updates (was … Scott Bradner
- Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 upda… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 upda… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 upda… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 upda… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Iasa20] fundamental brokenness of iasa2 upda… Livingood, Jason
- Re: fundamental brokenness of iasa2 updates (was … Bob Hinden