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Re: Predictable Internet Time

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Tue, 03 January 2017 22:34 UTC

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On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:

> Eliot Lear wrote:
> > I think the maintainer (Paul, CC'd) does tend to give it some priority.
>
> I don't know why anyone would need more lead time for tzdb leap-second
> updates (as opposed to time zone and DST updates). However, if there is
> a need, they can get leap-seconds.list from the development repository
> on GitHub, or from NIST if NIST is up, or simply by editing their
> leap-seconds.list file by hand. It would be nice if leap-seconds.list
> were distributed more reliably, of course.
>
>
​As I said, I want 30-100 years lead time so I can bake the schedule into
devices and remove a trust dependency.​

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