Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (Was: Live Streaming of the IETF 88 Technical Plenary

ned+ietf@mauve.mrochek.com Wed, 30 October 2013 14:16 UTC

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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 07:08:03 -0700
Subject: Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (Was: Live Streaming of the IETF 88 Technical Plenary
In-reply-to: "Your message dated Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:36:12 +0100" <20131030083611.GA27804@nic.fr>
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To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
Cc: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, IETF Discuss <ietf@ietf.org>
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> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:25:59AM +0100,
>  Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote
>  a message of 16 lines which said:

> > I don’t know about “only UTC" for events that are also visited
> > locally, but giving the UTC time as well would be a good idea.

> My experience with international organizations is that, when you
> indicate the time in two zones, there is often a discrepancy. With
> only one zone, there is no doubt about the real value.

And my experience is that regardless of what sort of organization you're
dealing with, if you ask them to convert a time for a future event that is
being held in a particular physical location to some other time zone, they
won't apply time zone rules correctly and the only announced time will be
wrong.

Which argues for including the local time when the event will take place. If
you want to mandate that the time also appear in UTC, great, but it's quite
important that the local time also be there.

				Ned

IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (Was:… Stephane Bortzmeyer
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Carsten Bormann
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Ross Finlayson
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Stephane Bortzmeyer
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Stephane Bortzmeyer
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Loa Andersson
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Jari Arkko
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Tim Chown
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… ned+ietf
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Richard Barnes
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… IAB Chair
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Scott Brim
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Randy Bush
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Dave Cridland
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Ole Jacobsen
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Richard Barnes
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Eliot Lear
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… ned+ietf
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Tony Finch
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Cyrus Daboo
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Bjoern Hoehrmann
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… joel jaeggli
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Andrew Feren
RE: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
Re: [IETF] Re: IETF must use only UTC in its anno… Warren Kumari
RE: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… John Levine
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Vinayak Hegde
Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… Vinayak Hegde
RE: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (… l.wood