Re: [IAOC] Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF mailing listpassword reminder emails
Chris Griffiths <cgriffiths@gmail.com> Sun, 03 November 2013 19:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IAOC] Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF mailing listpassword reminder emails
From: Chris Griffiths <cgriffiths@gmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:53:55 -0800
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On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, t.p. wrote: > >> <tp> >> >> Keep it on. Since mailman often drops subscribers for reasons unknown, >> the monthy list of what I am currently subscribed to is an invaluable >> check on what mischief mailman has done lately. > > opt-in not opt-out should be the default mode of such things. Paul, Based on feedback so far, having this process be opt-in seems like a good idea if you still want your monthly fix of mail list details from the IETF :-) Brian Carpenter sent a great write-up that provides a good technical alternative to enable opt-in for this, see below. (Thank you Brian!) How does this sound and does this meet your needs? Anyone else have any feedback on this approach? Thank you On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > It's taken me two days, probably due to jet lag, but I have finally > realised that this is a no-brainer. > > When logged in as a subscriber to mailman, down among the Subscription Options, > there is "Get password reminder email for this list?" which includes > opt-in/opt-out and a checkbox for "Set globally". > > Switch them off by defaault, and advise people of this opt-in if they want them. > > Done deal. Screen shot attached. > > Regards > Brian Carpenter
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF mail… Chris Griffiths
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … John Levine
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Carsten Bormann
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … t.p.
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Hector Santos
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Arturo Servin
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Rich Kulawiec
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Sandy Wills
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Paul Wouters
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … David Morris
- Re: [IAOC] Community Feedback: Turning off monthl… Chris Griffiths
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … John Levine
- Re: Community Feedback: Turning off monthly IETF … Livingood, Jason
- List processing capacity (was Re: Community Feedb… Dave Crocker
- Re: List processing capacity (was Re: Community F… Livingood, Jason
- Re: List processing capacity (was Re: Community F… Chris Griffiths
- Re: List processing capacity (was Re: Community F… Dave Crocker
- Re: List processing capacity (was Re: Community F… Chris Griffiths