Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Tue, 06 April 2021 15:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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On 4/6/21 10:32, Keith Moore wrote: > Let me just suggest for now that if the SAAs find some language > "unprofessional" then there's probably a more specific reason that > they could cite that would provide better feedback to the author. > And if the SAAs can't find a more specific reason for labeling > something "unprofessional", maybe they should reconsider it. I'm not arguing with your point (nor am I agreeing with it); I'm just saying that you're directing it to the wrong people. The SAA have been asked to do a job by the IETF (the whole IETF, as a consensus position), and it's unseemly to dress them down for doing it. If you want the job to change, then work to change the job description. Asking the SAA to selectively ignore parts of the job description based on individual input is risky: I would just as much object to someone suggesting that the SAA ignore the "and represents a pattern of abuse" portion of their job description so as to start instituting mailing list bans based on a single message. /a
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- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Masataka Ohta
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Masataka Ohta
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Keith Moore
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Adam Roach
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Keith Moore
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Adam Roach
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Keith Moore
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Adam Roach
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Keith Moore
- Re: Fwd: Initial suggestion from the IETF SAA Masataka Ohta