Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it
Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Tue, 13 September 2005 21:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it
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On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 05:06:40 PM -0400 Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> wrote: >>>>>> "Juergen" == Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de> >>>>>> writes: > > Juergen> Sam, > > Juergen> this is not about blocking port 22 as far as I understand > Juergen> things. I think the issue here is that TCP connection > Juergen> establishment determines ssh client/server roles. If > Juergen> there would be a way to initiate the connection but > Juergen> subsequently taking over the server role, protocols like > Juergen> netconf and presumably isms would find it much easier to > Juergen> provide CH functionality. > > Right. But for the ssh-connect application I don't think you would > want that unless you were trying to get around firewall policy. I don't think that's necessarily the case. Sure, you might be trying to do that, but you also might be trying to get around the fact that the machines at your house are behind a NAT and thus lack routable addresses. > I suspect that the ssh community would decline to extend ssh in this > direction; I certainly know I would not support it. I'm not entirely sure _how_ I'd extend SSH in this direction, or how much utility it would have. I don't think I would object to it, especially since I suspect it might make some of the ISMS cases easier even if you don't care about the firewall problem. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Marc Manthey
- RE: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Nelson, David
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Sam Hartman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Sam Hartman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Ned Freed
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Michael Thomas
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Ned Freed
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Michael Thomas
- BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- … Paul Hoffman
- CH and p2p [Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Paul Hoffman
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Scott W Brim
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISM… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Michael Thomas
- RE: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Nicholas Staff