Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Tue, 13 September 2005 21:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it
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>>>>> "Juergen" == Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@iu-bremen.de> writes: Juergen> Sam, Juergen> this is not about blocking port 22 as far as I understand Juergen> things. I think the issue here is that TCP connection Juergen> establishment determines ssh client/server roles. If Juergen> there would be a way to initiate the connection but Juergen> subsequently taking over the server role, protocols like Juergen> netconf and presumably isms would find it much easier to Juergen> provide CH functionality. Right. But for the ssh-connect application I don't think you would want that unless you were trying to get around firewall policy. I suspect that the ssh community would decline to extend ssh in this direction; I certainly know I would not support it. I would support setting up port forwarding as a way to get a back channel; I would also support a facility to run an ssh protocol over ssh channel. One advantage of both port forwarding and ssh over ssh is that they provide a much more consistent model for authentication and authorization of the request to "turn" than an explicit turn facility. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Marc Manthey
- RE: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Nelson, David
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Sam Hartman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Sam Hartman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Ned Freed
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Michael Thomas
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Ned Freed
- Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on… Michael Thomas
- BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- … Paul Hoffman
- CH and p2p [Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Paul Hoffman
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Scott W Brim
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Michael Thomas
- Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter brok… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISM… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Michael Thomas
- RE: net.stewards [Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms]… Nicholas Staff