Re: future of identifiers

Christian de Larrinaga <cdel@firsthand.net> Tue, 29 October 2013 17:40 UTC

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Maybe I've misunderstood but if this discussion (which I think is valid
to do) is framed for ICANN it is likely to miss or ignore current work
stimulated because of perceived blockages in the ICANN hierarchical model.

Just saying.



C


> Patrik Fältström <mailto:paf@frobbit.se>
> 29 October 2013 16:30
>
> Just to make my point clear. I absolutely do believe more thinking is
> needed. What was done 15 years ago never finished. I claim partly
> because we did not know the answers to all questions.
>
> My only point is that I think it would be sad to restart the
> discussion from zero. We both good and bad experience if we look back
> in history. We made mistakes then, but we also have successes. I here
> talk about URI-related discussions, whois++ (etc), Dublin Core, OID
> and what not.
>
> Same with the 10+(?) years of ID/Loc split discussions. Lots and lots
> of experience.
>
> And of course the experience enterprises like Facebook, Twitter etc
> have from their what I would call private namespaces.
>
> Patrik
>
> Eliot Lear <mailto:lear@cisco.com>
> 29 October 2013 16:23
>
> And having chaired NSRG, + 1/2. That is- it's always fair to look at
> new developments, but let's at least be aware of what was covered by
> others and build on their success (or avoid their failures).
>
> Eliot
> Jari Arkko <mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net>
> 29 October 2013 14:38
> For background, when I visited the ICANN meeting last summer, they
> were about to launch a set of panels to advice themselves about key
> topics in coming years. I promised to join one of them, on identifier
> technology innovation (along with a few other IETFers). The topic for
> this effort is future evolution of DNS and other identifiers,
> including relevant security and management aspects. The viewpoint is
> primarily to look at this from ICANN’s angle, but of course the matter
> is interesting to us others as well.
>
> And perhaps we at the IETF should also understand the same things.
> Hence this e-mail.
>
> I have some ideas on what some of these trends might be. But what do
> the rest of you think? Where is identifier technology going, and what
> new things are on the horizon? What do we need to do with IDNs?
> DNSSEC? What will DANE lead to, and how will id-locator split
> techniques evolve & be deployed? How will applications or users think
> about identifiers in the future?
>
> More information at http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/10/future-identifiers/
>
> Jari
>