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Re: future of identifiers

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 29 October 2013 21:12 UTC

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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:12:38 +1300
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 30/10/2013 08:56, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>     > From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
> 
>     > And having chaired NSRG
> 
> It might be worth observing that NSRG was focused on new namespaces for the
> lower-middle part of the stack (e.g. TCP endpoint names), whereas I get
> the impression from Jari's note that that was about names further up
> (application, etc).
> 
> But maybe I got an incorrect impression?

I don't think so, but since we have broken the layer 3/4 namespace in various
ways, and are at severe risk of breaking the layer 7 namespace too, not
to mention the mapping between them, it's hard to separate the two
discussions.

   Brian

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