Re: [Jmap] Fwd: Re: WG Review: JSON Mail Access Protocol (jmap) - reducing configuration complexity

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 08 February 2017 21:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Jmap] Fwd: Re: WG Review: JSON Mail Access Protocol (jmap) - reducing configuration complexity
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:16:45 -0500
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On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote:
> Neil Jenkins did a very good summary of existing problems and how JMAP
> is trying to improve over IMAP:
> <https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/imapext/current/msg05820.html <https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/imapext/current/msg05820.html>>

Wow, this is _really_ useful.   Thank you for pointing it out.