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RE: IETF subpoena processes update and a request

Michael Cameron <michael.cameron@ericsson.com> Fri, 24 March 2017 13:41 UTC

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From: Michael Cameron <michael.cameron@ericsson.com>
To: Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
CC: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>, IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: IETF subpoena processes update and a request
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Confirmed that you serve the IETF with a subpoena by serving ISOC.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@sobco.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:39 AM
To: Michael Cameron <michael.cameron@ericsson.com>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>; IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>; IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: IETF subpoena processes update and a request

from the IETF home page

The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is an organized activity of the Internet Society (ISOC).

(see also RFC 2028)

i.e., the IETF is not a legal entity itself but the ISOC has been the legal contact point 

Scott

> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Michael Cameron <michael.cameron@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
> Isn't the IETF part of the ISOC?
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2134
> 
> The address, including street and number, of the initial registered office of the corporation is c/o C T Corporation System, 1030 15th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20005, and the name of its initial registered agent at such address is C T Corporation System.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scott Bradner
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:30 AM
> To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
> Cc: IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>; IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: IETF subpoena processes update and a request
> 
> all good questions - any suggested answers?
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> in what legal juristiction is the ietf?  in what juristiction is the 
>> subpoena served?  how does an american (for example) gag order apply 
>> to a nebulous entity such as the ietf?
>> 
>> can we move to iceland?
>> 
>> randy
>> 
>

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