Re: What's an experiment?
"JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@jefsey.com> Thu, 16 February 2006 02:25 UTC
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Dear Brian, ICANN ICP-3 document called for a DNS test-bed to carry experiments in a given framework (to test various DNS evolutions including the end of the root). The document lists interesting criteria/conditions. Some are related to the DNS (non profit, ultimate agreement by the community). Of the head two are important: reversibility and no harm to the current operations. The "non profit" can be generailised: if a community effort is carried to commonly consider an evolution, every option should be considered and equally supported. Experiments must not be a way to impose personnal or affinity group doctrines and DoE (Denial of Evolution). Reversibility would also mean the result cannot be published as BCP. It may reflect the practice of a group. But it would not be acceptable to impose it to non participants as there is no proof it would scale - before the experience convers the whole network. This means that experience may be a way to deploy or to transition. Should the IETF has started a large scale IPv6 experimentation, may be would we have IPv6 by competition to the RIRs. This has been considered. jfc At 16:06 15/02/2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >When considering some recent appeals, the IESG discovered that >we have very little guidance about the meaning of "experiments" >in relation to Experimental RFCs. RFC 2026 refers to work which >is "part of some research or development effort" and the IESG >has adopted some guidelines to discriminate between Experimental >and Informational documents (see >http://www.ietf.org/u/ietfchair/draft-iesg-info-exp-01.html ). >But beyond that, we do not know what constitutes an acceptable >experiment on the Internet. > >The IESG notes that the community could establish a variety of >guidelines describing what is and is not acceptable in experiments. >Historically, the IESG has made decisions based on its perception >that there is a strong desire in the community to publish technology >that is being deployed experimentally. We encourage community discussion >and development of more specific guidelines on operational conflicts >caused by experiments and how this should affect what we choose to >publish. (However we recommend that such discussion >focus on the general issue rather than the specifics of any case.) > > Brian Carpenter > for the IESG > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ietf mailing list >Ietf@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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