Re: What's an experiment?
Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Mon, 20 February 2006 16:44 UTC
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Phil, Experimental seems inappropriate if really what is going on is that there is no consensus as to how to do something. If the RFC documents existing practice and won't break anything (and in particular won't break anything needlessly), then I would say another attempt via independent submission should be tried. People seem to forget that many of our standards were NOT in fact built on consensus, but JUST running code. Ain't nothing wrong with that, you know. Recognizing reality is a good thing. Eliot Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >> From: Eliot Lear [mailto:lear@cisco.com] >> > > >> Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >> >>> That overlooks the fact that often the protocol is written up after >>> the experiment, the results of which are described elsewhere. >>> >>> The main ongoing experiments are of the form: 'I believe that the >>> protocol approach described in this document to address real >>> deployment needs better than the WG consensus. >>> >> I agree this happens. I don't think these are experiments >> and I don't think they should be labeled as such. >> > > Fine if you want to support the creation of an alternative label that > provides a better description. > > If the idea is to attempt to further centralize control then it would be > unwise. > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: What's an experiment? Joe Touch
- RE: What's an experiment? Christian Huitema
- Re: What's an experiment? Eric A. Hall
- Re: What's an experiment? Eliot Lear
- Re: What's an experiment? Joe Baptista
- RE: What's an experiment? Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- RE: What's an experiment? Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: What's an experiment? Eliot Lear
- Re: What's an experiment? Frank Ellermann
- Re: What's an experiment? Andrew Newton
- Re: What's an experiment? JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: What's an experiment? Frank Ellermann
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