Re: What's an experiment?

Joe Baptista wrote:
> JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
> 
>> Dear Brian,
>> ICANN ICP-3 document called for a DNS test-bed to carry experiments in 
>> a given framework (to test various DNS evolutions including the end of 
>> the root). The document lists interesting criteria/conditions. Some 
>> are related to the DNS (non profit, ultimate agreement by the 
>> community). Of the head two are important: reversibility and no harm 
>> to the current operations. The "non profit" can be generailised: if a 
>> community effort is carried to commonly consider an evolution, every 
>> option should be considered and equally supported. Experiments must 
>> not be a way to impose personnal or affinity group doctrines and DoE 
>> (Denial of Evolution). Reversibility would also mean the result cannot 
>> be published as BCP. It may reflect the practice of a group. But it 
>> would not be acceptable to impose it to non participants as there is 
>> no proof it would scale - before the experience convers the whole 
>> network. This means that experience may be a way to deploy or to 
>> transition. Should the IETF has started a large scale IPv6 
>> experimentation, may be would we have IPv6 by competition to the RIRs. 
>> This has been considered.
>> jfc
> 
> 
> Thats happening regardless of the IETF - www.public-root.com, 
> www.inaic.com and www.unifiedroot.com.  Failed experiments result in 
> successful evolution.
> 
> regards
> joe
> 

Dont forget

http://www.opennic.unrated.net/
http://dot-root.com/
http://root.5wc.ch/

Those who are not commercial are difficult to reach sometimes.
E.g. http://www.opennic.unrated.net/ sometimes can be reached
only as http://www.opennic.glue and you have to add

host_name("131.161.247.68","www.opennic.glue").

to your /etc/hosts to find them.

Still they have nameservers and they happily communicate with
each other without ICANN even nowing about their existence.

Cheers

Peter and Karin

>>
>>
>> At 16:06 15/02/2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>
>>> When considering some recent appeals, the IESG discovered that
>>> we have very little guidance about the meaning of "experiments"
>>> in relation to Experimental RFCs. RFC 2026 refers to work which
>>> is "part of some research or development effort" and the IESG
>>> has adopted some guidelines to discriminate between Experimental
>>> and Informational documents (see
>>> http://www.ietf.org/u/ietfchair/draft-iesg-info-exp-01.html ).
>>> But beyond that, we do not know what constitutes an acceptable
>>> experiment on the Internet.
>>>
>>> The IESG notes that the community could establish a variety of
>>> guidelines describing what is and is not acceptable in experiments.
>>> Historically, the IESG has made decisions based on its perception
>>> that there is a strong desire in the community to publish technology
>>> that is being deployed experimentally.  We encourage community 
>>> discussion
>>> and development of more specific guidelines on operational conflicts
>>> caused by experiments and how this should affect what we choose to
>>> publish.  (However we recommend that such discussion
>>> focus on the general issue rather than the specifics of any case.)
>>>
>>>   Brian Carpenter
>>>   for the IESG

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