Re: What's an experiment?

Joe Baptista <baptista@cynikal.net> Fri, 17 February 2006 15:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: What's an experiment?
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Peter Dambier wrote:

> Still they have nameservers and they happily communicate with
> each other without ICANN even nowing about their existence.
>
Out of touch with reality.

regards
joe

> Cheers
>
> Peter and Karin
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 16:06 15/02/2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>
>>>> When considering some recent appeals, the IESG discovered that
>>>> we have very little guidance about the meaning of "experiments"
>>>> in relation to Experimental RFCs. RFC 2026 refers to work which
>>>> is "part of some research or development effort" and the IESG
>>>> has adopted some guidelines to discriminate between Experimental
>>>> and Informational documents (see
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/u/ietfchair/draft-iesg-info-exp-01.html ).
>>>> But beyond that, we do not know what constitutes an acceptable
>>>> experiment on the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> The IESG notes that the community could establish a variety of
>>>> guidelines describing what is and is not acceptable in experiments.
>>>> Historically, the IESG has made decisions based on its perception
>>>> that there is a strong desire in the community to publish technology
>>>> that is being deployed experimentally.  We encourage community 
>>>> discussion
>>>> and development of more specific guidelines on operational conflicts
>>>> caused by experiments and how this should affect what we choose to
>>>> publish.  (However we recommend that such discussion
>>>> focus on the general issue rather than the specifics of any case.)
>>>>
>>>>   Brian Carpenter
>>>>   for the IESG
>>>
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