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Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 12 February 2026 19:30 UTC

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 08:21:28 +1300
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Subject: Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups]
To: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, IETF general list <ietf@ietf.org>
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On 13-Feb-26 06:10, John R Levine wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2026, Michael Richardson wrote:
>> So, the IETF Trust/RPC can apply a copyright to this public domain content?
>> I'm not certain that actually works world-wide.
> 
> The IPMC doesn't "apply a copyright" to anything.  It manages a set of
> non-exclusive licenses.  Non-exclusive means you still have whatever
> rights you have in the original, which for P.D. is to do whatever you
> want.
> 
> This is all described in RFCs 5378 and 8721 and the TLP.  There's no need
> to guess.

Right. And that's why RFC 3758 says "To the extent that a Contribution or any portion thereof is protected by copyright ..." As far as _unprotected_ material goes, the IETF and the Trust/IPMC has nothing to say.
  
> I think that in this situation, Canadian law works the same way but it's
> been a while since I've looked at it.

As far as I can tell from a quick glance, WIPO thinks it works that way internationally, too.

    Brian

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