Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups
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On 08-Feb-26 14:55, John Levine wrote:
> It appears that Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> said:
>> I like the idea of requiring a disclosure that an Internet Draft was written with AI tools. I agree probably not for emails.
>
> I expect that the people whose drafts most suffer from being written by an LLM will lie about it, either because
> their English is too poor to understand the rules, or they have perverse incentives like an an employer that
> gives them a bonus for publishing an RFC.
>
> Then what? I'm not saying we shouldn't ask, but I'm saying we need to be prepared for noncompliance.
Of course, but if we make it a submission requirement - check the "AI used" box - there's really no harm, no shame.
Actually there are perhaps two boxes to check:
1. Was AI used in the production of this draft? [yes/no]
2. If yes, did the authors personally verify the AI-generated material? [yes/no]
The attachment was generated by ChatGPT.
Brian
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- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Brian E Carpenter
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Colin Perkins
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Bob Hinden
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups John Levine
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups John Levine
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Orie
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Brian E Carpenter
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Kathleen Moriarty
- RE: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Cheng Li
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups George Michaelson
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Brian E Carpenter
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups George Michaelson
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Christian Hopps
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Nick Hilliard
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Joel Halpern
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Job Snijders
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Robert Moskowitz
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Nick Hilliard
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Robert Moskowitz
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Jeffrey Walton
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Robert Moskowitz
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Rich Kulawiec
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups George Michaelson
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Carsten Bormann
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- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Laurence Lundblade
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- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Donald Eastlake
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… John R Levine
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Lixia Zhang
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- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Jeffrey Walton
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- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Joel Halpern
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Nick Hilliard
- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Christian Huitema
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… George Michaelson
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Toerless Eckert
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Lixia Zhang
- Re: AI disclosure [was: AI slop "contributions" t… Abdussalam Baryun
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- Re: AI slop "contributions" to IETF working groups Michael Richardson
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