Re: SDNAuth - Secure SDN authentication and authorization - Interested?

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Wed, 04 February 2015 13:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: SDNAuth - Secure SDN authentication and authorization - Interested?
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On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> wrote:
> just fyi: the mailing-list does on its sign-up page (in the first line) make the explicit statement to operate under the IETF Notewell:https://mail.rozanak.com/mailman/listinfo/sdnauth

That's precisely what I would advise doing in this situation.   It might be worth adding that the list is informal and is not sponsored by the IETF, though; otherwise people might get the impression that it's an official IETF mailing list.   You should also disclose whether or not the list is being archived, although since it's not an IETF mailing list, whether you do so is not up to us.   If the list is not archived, however, it might be difficult and involve a painful discovery process if for some reason the Note Well had to be enforced in a lawsuit.  So while keeping an archive places an additional burden on Hosnieh, it is probably a win for other participants.

(And yes, I realize you were talking to the other Ted... :)