Re: RANT: posting IDs more often -- more is better -- why are we so shy?

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 01 March 2017 19:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: RANT: posting IDs more often -- more is better -- why are we so shy?
To: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Organization: University of Auckland
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 08:24:41 +1300
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On 02/03/2017 06:07, Patrick McManus wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> For the third time in two days I find myself, when asking others for
>> opinions
>> about some text, pointing at github commit logs.  With the beautiful
>> makefiles we often have, one can't even depend upon having a formatted .txt
>> version there!
> 
> 
> You can fix this with better tooling within github and travis integration
> fwiw. Checkout the httpbis github https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions
> - you'll see the for each adopted draft the README.md has links to the
> "editor's draft" in both txt and html as well as the working group draft.
> The former is auto-generated on every push to the repo, the latter is a
> pointer to datatracker.
> 
> I'm not arguing against updating data tracker more often - just saying this
> 'editor's draft' convention can work very well between official revisions
> no matter the cadence a WG chooses.

The details of that discussion probably belong on ietf-and-github@ietf.org,
but I must point out that this way of working *excludes* from the 
discussion WG participants who don't grok github. Substantial issues
need to be discussed on the mailing list and substantial (non-typo)
revisions need to be posted as I-Ds.

    Brian