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Re: Last Call: <draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-10.txt> (Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology) to Best Current Practice

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 22 January 2017 19:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-10.txt> (Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology) to Best Current Practice
To: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Organization: University of Auckland
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 08:30:54 +1300
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On 23/01/2017 07:33, Jari Arkko wrote:
> 
>> Text suggestions: … WG design teams [see BCP 25] and other design teams …
> 
> Close, thank you!
> 
> (But how about adjusting as follows: “… WG design teams [see BCP 25] and other design teams intended as IETF design teams …” ?)

Somebody could check with a lawyer about how to wordsmith it, but I think
it is indeed a question of intent. And maybe participants should be
advised to make their intention clear when starting a discussion, or
to ask when joining a discussion ("Hi, is this an IETF conversation
or a private one?").

    Brian

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